Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: Peak Oil Homestead
I currently have my home on five acres in a semi arid region in the southern US. The property is located close to the US Mexico Border. My current property has an abundance of wild game in the area. I have made some immediate considerations for short term sustainability such as rainwater collection, small garden and woodstove. The area does not have an abundance of consumable firewood in the area. The garden soil had to be trucked in as the soil is very rocky and contains lots of caliche.
Here’s the issue.
My Father and Mother in Law who live some 150 miles away and are older(82) as my wife is adopted, have offered to give us there small farm, 7 acres of river bottom. The property contains Pecan, Peach, Fig, and Plum, trees with excellent soil. It is within close proximity to a major metropolitan area however and a railroad runs in front of the property, also a river runs along the backside of the property. I have been working on there place as well and believe it to be a better prospect when tshtf.
Which property is more desirable?
I really already know the answer but wanted to get another perspective. My job does not allow me to relocate at this time should I just wait and make the migration when the time comes?
Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5719 Location: Body in OK, Heart in TX
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:42 pm Post subject:
The good farmland is exceptionally valuable. However, I am personally concerned about nuclear war and big brother stuff, so I'm not willing to live near a big city (that's why we're getting away from Austin). Tough choice you've got there.
The good farmland is exceptionally valuable. However, I am personally concerned about nuclear war and big brother stuff, so I'm not willing to live near a big city (that's why we're getting away from Austin). Tough choice you've got there.
5 VS 7
Water VS little
If "we" get to a nuke war/marauding bands situation, few places will be 'safe'. Personally I'd got for the 7 acre place and hope things don't go too badly.
Can you keep both, and rent out the 5 acre place to put scratch in your pocket/cover the morgage?
Hummmm...a chance to start up TWO communities! Not bad.
I'd stay where you are (you've got it well set-up), and rent out the homestead to someone in that city who's Peak-aware and wants to start planning for a community, without giving up his job in town quite yet.
The city is probably doomed, putting the homestead in danger from fleeing, panicked citizens and those who know how to be marauders. But if it survives, it certainly sounds like a good place for a community!
I do not believe the madmax scenario, but I do believe that cars have much less future than railroads. Stay close to railroads and you will be able to go places and transport heavy loads.
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 1257 Location: Big Rock Candy Mountain
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject:
There will be lots of prime vacant land after dieoff. Despite the edenic nature of the other property, its proximity to a large city poses a lethal risk. If you're SURE you can survive where you are then stay put. Few will head for the deserts and damned few would know what to do if they got there. Of course you could accept the other property then sell it-its probably quite valuable today. Remember, were talking about survival. You do what you have to do.
What do you folks think about the Mexico Border issue with my 5 acre tract? I am 2 miles from the Border do you think there could be an influx in the migration of people? Or do you think Mexico will be happy with there situation?
Also my family owns a few lots in an old ghost town. more later on that.
Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5719 Location: Body in OK, Heart in TX
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject:
UncoveringTruths wrote:
What do you folks think about the Mexico Border issue with my 5 acre tract?
I think it totally depends on where along the border you are, and whether you are already integrated with your neighbors' community (if there is one).
I really don't know what will happen with Mexico. We were planning to move to Mexico until I realized that if we didn't have time to get integrated with our community we would be in big trouble. I'm not a racist and I abhor racism. However, I lived in Belize when it became independent, and we had to barricade ourselves in our house for 3 days because many of the local people (who normally were our friends) got drunk and were going around beating white people with sticks. Thus I am not comfortable being someplace where I stand out in this kind of crisis situation unless I am already part of the community, and my belief is there isn't time for that. Sad but true. I also got beat up a lot in school down there for being a gringa.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't have enough info to offer you an opinion about the Mexico situation, other than to relate my story above. I loved living in Belize before all the other Americans moved down there and messed it up.
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