Sweden to get rid of oil by 2020?

Tuike · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: Sweden to get rid of oil by 2020?

Swedish minister Mona Sahlin writes in Dagens Nyheter newspaper, that Sweden is going to stop using oil completely by the year 2020 as the first country in the world. Sahlin says they are going to accomplish this by tax discounts, energy effiency and by investing in renewable energies and research. Sahlin says that their goal is that nobody drives gasoline based car and nobody has oil heated home by 2020.

Here's the original text in swedish if someone can read it: http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=572&a=468440&previousRenderType=6

Sweden has said before that they are going get rid of nuclear power too, but they have made very little progress. They just talk but no action.

Raxozanne

Obviously they have very little understanding of how oil is used throughout our modern society. I have a feeling they will find out very soon though and the goalposts will be shifting.

JayBee

No oil?

So they will phase out plastics and pharmaceuticals and pesticides and fetilisers and ... and ...
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Raxozanne

Actually does that mean that they will be giving some sort of replacement hydrogen car to every citizen or will they force people to buy them? I assume it will be hydrogen. What happens to the people who can't afford a new car? Unless of course they go for biodiesel but what advantages would biodiesel offer over gas unless Sweden could produce all the biodiesel it needs for itself (self-sufficiency) or else they will importing it from another country and I should think the price would get progressively higher as oil depletes.

rogerhb

This is also being discussed in Sweden to completely eliminate oil use to 2020
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Tuike

Starvid

It is probably only hot air. Mona Sahlin has the IQ of a gerbil.
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nocar · Intermediate Crude Joined: Nov 05, 2004 Posts: 689

The article is printed in the Debate section of the leading newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

The headline says "oil" but in the text it occasionally says "fossil fuels", it is hard to know exactly what she means. On the whole I agree with both Tuike and Starvid - lots of hot air and an ignorant politician trying to make her party (ruling social democrats who currently have so low ratings that they would lose an election) look good.

Interesting with the Finnish thread that Finland is "behind" in biofuels - the Finnish government seems to have made a good analysis.

Btw, biofuel in Sweden and Finland would come from wood, not grains - lots of forests.

I guess we (Swedes) can run all our cars on ethanol from wood - if we get rid of 99,9% of our cars, and retain about 4000 of the 4 million we have.
Not a very bad idea.

nocar

elroy

And when the last tree is cut down, then what will be used ?

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themotie

LGW · Tar Sands Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Sweden

I remember seeing a number on that the E85 sold at Swedish gas stations has cost 13% worth of fossil fuels to produce (and transport) - the entire chain, relative to the energy contained in the E85.

Half-hearted? Yes! But clearly a step in the right direction.