Steorn (Irish company) claims free energy discovery

roel · Tar Sands Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 23

Irish Examiner
Irish firm wants scientists to test their free energy scheme.

First they get rid of the 1st law: "90% of the scientists the company asked to examine the technology refused. He said the 10% who investigated drew the same conclusion as the company that it can create energy."

And then the 2nd law is easy: "....the implications of our technology go far beyond scientific curiosity: they address many urgent global needs including security of energy supply and zero emission energy production.”

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ChumpusRex2 · Tar Sands Joined: Mar 11, 2006 Posts: 77

Have you checked out their website?

There is precisely no information about their invention on it at all. All they say is that they have developed a zero emission energy source and it's patent pending.

That's it. No description of how it works, how much power they have produced in prototypes, or indeed even if they have built a prototype. They've got a nice presentation stating what it could be used for - which basically is just a list of uses for energy. LOL.

So 90% of scientists contacted had refused to investigate their technology. Well, if you don't say what the technology is - just that it's a free energy machine, well, what did you expect?

And, they're advertising in the economist - presumably trying to stir up some potential venture capitalists - but who would invest in a company such a radical technology but who won't even demonstrate or publish even the vaguest description of it?

The overall scenario seems so ludicrous that it's hard to believe it's a scam? Maybe it's a psychological experiment to see how gullible potential investors are?

pstarr

Your word choice 'scheme' has certain degrogatory implications. I hope you are being sarcastic but then why post this junk?
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roel · Tar Sands Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 23

Why post it? The original article was posted here by waegari this morning. And I am sure that thermodynamics is still not 100% clear for everyone, hence my post.<p>
The word scheme can mean many things, not necessarily negative. The article calls it a "technology", but that seems a bit too much honor.

Pfish

Scheme? Scam is more like it. Roel, keep track of this marvelous invention thingamajiggy. Send the good people an e-mail. Make a phone call to them. Heck, go visit their production factory. Out of amusement, I have done some of the above on other "claims of success." It is a scam. People looking for ignorant backers to fund "an idea worth billions."
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roel · Tar Sands Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 23

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I think I'll reserve judgment. I have sincere doubts about the ability of their invention, whatever it may be, but I'm not going to say it can't be done. It may be that the laws have to be re-written; sometimes science does that.

BUT, that said, I'd say that whatever it is it probably DOESN'T violate the law of conservation of matter/energy. The energy is being extracted from somewhere, if nowhere else the earth's EM field. Now we've known for years that it's there, if these boys have found a way to do it then kudo's are in order.

Def. one to keep an eye on.
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roel · Tar Sands Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 23

“Classical thermodynamics is the only physical theory of universal content concerning which I am convinced that, within the framework of its basic concepts, it will never be overthrown.”
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emailking · Intermediate Crude Joined: Mar 11, 2006 Posts: 747

I'm a physicist. I wrote them an e-mail in their contact form and asked for more information on how the tehcnology works (beyond magnetic fields interfacing) and I would be glad to review it. We'll see what kind of a response I get.

abelardlindsay

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steorn_Free_Energy

Pes is a good compendium of all information on every "new energy" project out there, ranging from the somewhat plausible to the downright kooky. They have rankings produced by a panel of scientists as to how likely they think different "new energy" projects are at succeeding. I didn't see Steorn in the top 100. but that could be because it's so new. I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not holding my breath for hot-fusion to be useful anytime soon either.

What's neat though is that this company is not just a one-trick pony, they actually are involved in successfully commercializing other technologies.

blackfrank · Tar Sands Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 23

nowhere on the site do they ask for money all they want is 12 scientests to come look at what the have and publish a report saying yes or no does it work, maybe it does maybe it does not but how can any one make a judgement when they have not tested anything let wait and see,

Madpaddy · Expert Joined: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 1989

As of today in Ireland, we have also suspended the law of gravity and Newton's third law has also been repealed.
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Fergus · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 13, 2006 Posts: 409

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2343913&page=1

Company claims to have it and are asking for scientists to debunk it.

"Without being connected to a power supply and without using existing energy surrounding the device — like heat — the motor creates energy from nothing, Steorn claims."

Interesting claim. Color me doubtful though.

caliginousface · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Free, clean energy for all???

Yeah seems pretty wild, but why would they claim and want scientists to try and debunk it if it clearly already happens? Publicity I guess? Well, if it's the real deal, maybe it's what could "save humanity."

Whatev!