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Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 647 Location: Eastern NC
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
First frost in my area is usually Nov 1. I've planted beets, spinach, collards, kale, and may try a few green beans. Latter I'll plant banner fava beans to carry over until the spring, supposedly they tolerate the coldest temps. Prepping the soil with greensand, bonemeal, and a little perlite also. What are the rest of folks doing?
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
On Sunday I put some kale, spinach, and collards in the ground. (seeds.) Might give carrots a go, too. Today I saw the first spinach sprout. Hope to see some others tomorrow. I've also got some basil and okra going from a few months ago. Those are in pots... As I was moving them from the old house to the new, they all accidentally overturned and spilled their contents while the plants were still very small. I quickly put the dirt back in, and replanted the sprouts, thinking that they might all be goners. Lo and behold, every one survived, and are strong and thriving. I don't know if it's a testament to the quality of the seeds I bought or just my dumb luck.
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2673 Location: Vancouver Island
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
first frost is october 17th october
I've got radishes, beets, spinach, parsnips and green onions going.
Onions and parsnips are optimistic hoping but the rest should do fine.
I intend to plant kale, kohlrabi and mustard greens today if I get into town and buy seeds. I also need to get my garlic in pretty soon. _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
We've planted peas, bok choi, lettuce, carrots, broccoli, and winter wheat for the fall. The bok choi keeps fairly well in our root cellar, the rest just like cooler weather. Our first frost is supposedly mid October, but it's been coming later these days. Of course, we came very close to a frost this past week!
I wish we had started some cabbage in summer. The spring cabbage was gorgeous, and cabbage keeps well in the root cellar too. If we have time, we might put in some spinach. Otherwise, it's bedtime for the garden. This time of year we put up a few extra compost bins directly on garden plots to deal with the summer growth and feed the plots directly.
Other things going into the root cellar are this year's keeper potatoes and onions, carrots, about a dozen pumpkins we grew in the garden and front yard, apples from an orchard tree we're "adopting" (didn't get any of our own this year), pears, and some other winter squash.
We should get some popcorn and dry beans from the popcorn and various beans we grew this summer. We canned beans, tomatoes, and lots of grape jam.
If things go well, I may put Bambi's girlfriend in the freezer this winter too.
Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Posts: 212 Location: New Jersey
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
I'm trying a fall garden this year. My first crop of radishes, leeks, shallots, wrinkled cress, and beets, planted in mid-August, didn't fare too well. Trying again as of September 16, with the same crops and added spinach and two types of lettuces.
I hope to buy straw soon, but probably will not need it. We are catching a break with sunny late summer weather.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
my work schedule in combination with a long drought caused most of the garden to go fallow for the past 6 months, been retaking possession of it for the past couple of weeks.
Down here (8b/9a), we might get a frost in December. I'm starting everything but the most heat demanding plants.
started within the last month
green beans
cilantro
dill
red potato
carrots
chard
butternut squash
yellow crookneck
lima beans
sweet red corn
okra
cabbage
collards
brocolli
cauliflower
purslane
english peas, my favorite, I could live off them
cowpeas
zuke
leeks
sunflowers
spinach
soon to start
turnip
kohlrabi
mustard
beets
brussels prouts
carrot
pinto beans
yellow corn
more strawberries in a couple of months
hubbard squash
acorn squash
more peas
still more peas
red and yellow onions
garlic
leeks
chives
radish
cukes
assorted lettuce
more of whats already started
I put in a few of several plants every few days. Rather than a lot of a single thing all at once, I get a little bit of a wide variety at the ready most of the thyme.
I can grow year round down here, although things slow down in January and Feb. Over the winter I start lots of peas, gives the soil a boost for the spring planting of tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, melons.
I have to use open pollenated seed as all the stores around here only sell seed in the spring. Thats when I can try some new cultivars, unless I go online for seed.
If I every get around to fixing the greenhouse roof, I'll try some tomato and peppers in there over the winter.
The chickens will start laying in another couple of weeks.
I'm especially looking forward to that. _________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
Joined: Jan 03, 2005 Posts: 1154 Location: western Wisconsin
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
We had our first frost a week ago, Sept 14 I think. It has been warmer since then (day highs 60s and 70s, lows overnight in the 50s-degrees F, of course).
We planted fall cabbage, brocolli, cauliflower, kale, and kohlrabi about a month ago, and lettuce and spinach too. We try to get some spinach and lettuce coming up about the time it freezes good or snows, and it will usually overwinter okay then, so we have lettuce and spinach as soon as the snow melts in March or April. We will plant our garlic next week (when the moon is right).
Picking apples, pears are all done, and can dig Jerusalem artichokes any day now, I suspect. Need to weed the strawberry bed again and then mulch it for winter. Need to prune the raspberries while it is still obvious which canes are old.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
We put in some radishes, beets, swiss chard, spinach, kale, wintr lettuce, carrot,....these are the things that came up. My leeks, and turnips did not come up I would like to plant my garlic in the same place as my radishes are now....another week or so I'll pick the radishes, and then put some garlic in. Could someone elaborate on when the moon is right?
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1093 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
Our frost date is Oct 30. I've planted carrots, scallions, garlic, lettuce, beets, turnips, kohlrabi, cabbage, kale, and broccoli. My pumpkins are coming right along too. Most of that stuff I planted two weeks ago and they're poking up through the soil already.
I've been reading "Four Season Harvest" by Eliot Coleman, and I'm making plans for a simple hoophouse which with row covers should keep most everything growing after frost. I'm also going to use my sunny garage windows to grow things when it gets even later in the year.
I still need to set up at least one more plot, and I plan to plant spinach, which it's still too hot to even think of planting. It's supposed to be in the upper 80's today. _________________ What, so I'm in no end game
Move my piece right off the board
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
I planted rutabagas in July for winter harvest. They are supposed to be hardier than anything, will keep in the ground all winter, and very nutritious. I've only had store-bought, I expect these will be superior.
Will probably plant kale and lettuce this weekend and garlic in October.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
I have brusselsprouts and kale growing in pails in the most sunny place of my home, a south facing balkony, to be harvested in Nov-Dec. They were planted in the summer or course. Here, in Stockholm Sweden, fall means rapidly disappearing sunlight.
I envy those who can grow lettuce in winter, not possible here, not enough light.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Fall gardening
nocar, I would look further into lettuces for really far Northern climates. In the previously mentioned Four Season Gardening book, there are seeds that withstand wintr, so much so that they were near the Arctic Circle, and they still grew with the help of some sort of greenhouse (Glass bottles or plastic around a frame).
If you have some space, it might be worth investigating!
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I would like to plant my garlic in the same place as my radishes are now....another week or so I'll pick the radishes, and then put some garlic in. Could someone elaborate on when the moon is right?
