I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Who knows why, exactly? What do you say, dukey? Suck excessive displays of government secrecy, without the explicit permission from the people they serve, is enough reason to actively rebel against and destroy these undemocratic, traitorous governments?
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Amazing. If what this guy says is true - that real 7/7/05 terrorist strikes in London occurred on the same trains, on the same buses, at the same stations, on the same date and at the same times as a government-sponsored terrorism preparedness drill - then how could this possibly be a coincidence? Anyone with basic intuition or scientific training would have to conclude a priori that such a confluence of events must have a causal link. If the content of this video is true, then Blair is either grossly negligent - or complicit - for his not attempting to get to the bottom of what happened.
This account, of course, reminds me of the "botched response" of the US air command on 9/11 during our country's own, similar, preparedness "drills."
Plantagenet- - you've claimed to have read the Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright. Do you figure there is a chance that Al Qaeda has moles inside the American and British anti-Terror task forces?
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
From Wikipedia:
Simultaneous exercise
On the evening of 7 July, the managing director of Visor Consultants, Peter Power, was interviewed on BBC Radio 5. Peter Power stated "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now."[4] [5] The statements made by Peter Power are found on Google Video and YouTube.[6][7]
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Zentric wrote:
a priori
There's no such thing as a priori knowledge in this context. I have studied a little (very little) philosophy.
There most certainly could have been exercises on the day of July 7th WITHOUT there being a conspiracy. What you say is not evidence but a circumstantial fact which lends credence to your point of view but it is in no way evidence.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Grifter wrote:
Zentric wrote:
a priori
There's no such thing as a priori knowledge in this context. I have studied a little (very little) philosophy.
There most certainly could have been exercises on the day of July 7th WITHOUT there being a conspiracy. What you say is not evidence but a circumstantial fact which lends credence to your point of view but it is in no way evidence.
I am suspicious though.
Either a conspiracy by members of the government or a tip-off (from and to whom, I won't even speculate).
Regarding a priori - if, and I emphasize, if, that video's account is true, then you know from the start that something (a crime, an event or an activity worthy of investigation) is up. The odds that both a drill and a real terror event could have so precisely overlapped each other - while not being causally related - must be something like, well, 1:1043. Don't you think?
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Zentric wrote:
The odds that both a drill and a real terror event could have so precisely overlapped each other - while not being causally related - must be something like, well, 1:1043. Don't you think?
No I don't, I keep an open mind. There are probably drills being conducted all the time. There was a chemical one that I remember but no real terror attack happened. Well, apart from the actual excercise itself. There were drills on 911 regarding airplanes being used as misiles too.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Grifter wrote:
Zentric wrote:
The odds that both a drill and a real terror event could have so precisely overlapped each other - while not being causally related - must be something like, well, 1:1043. Don't you think?
No I don't, I keep an open mind. There are probably drills being conducted all the time. There was a chemical one that I remember but no real terror attack happened. Well, apart from the actual excercise itself. There were drills on 911 regarding airplanes being used as misiles too.
There are always scenarios being played out.
So this means my "open mind" is completely worthless...
41 zero's is alot of zero's......
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
to find the truth, you really don't have to look very hard
Most of the time it is buried in the mainstream media
ie
Quote:
A leaked four-page report by the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC), which oversees all spying, is the first definitive evidence that the intelligence services expected terrorists to strike at the Underground.
Just before the London bombings .. [Published: June 7 2005 21:59]
Quote:
The security service, MI5, has advised British businesses that the threat from international terrorism in the UK is lower than at any time since the September 11 terror attacks on the US.
The guy that was supposed to be in charge of the London bombings ..
Quote:
Khan was known to the MI5 but officers assigned to investigate him were diverted to another operation.
BBC News learned the security services had been so concerned about him they had planned to put him under a higher level of investigation. He was also known to the police for suspected petty fraud.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: The London Bombings were an inside job
Grifter wrote:
Zentric wrote:
The odds that both a drill and a real terror event could have so precisely overlapped each other - while not being causally related - must be something like, well, 1:1043. Don't you think?
No I don't, I keep an open mind. There are probably drills being conducted all the time. There was a chemical one that I remember but no real terror attack happened. Well, apart from the actual excercise itself. There were drills on 911 regarding airplanes being used as misiles too.
There are always scenarios being played out.
Terror drills being carried out all of the time in London? How often, what does all of the time mean?
Also I know someone who was working at Chase Manhatten in the UK and they had a drill for evacuating the building due to an aircraft crashing into it before 911. Thats just the word of someone I know though so make what you want of it.
I only got involved in this thread because I saw an incorrect use of the term a priori. I still think they lie to us.
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