Don’t worry, just a little bump - $70 is just around the corner. Short traders just keep making those margin calls, mortgage the house if you have to. Fortunes await you! PO is for pansies and doomers. At $70 short some more ..... it is going back to $22 .... the world is awash with oil ........ reality has nothing to do with it, its all in those charts!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Sep 13, 2006 Posts: 269 Location: Vancouver Island
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
Ludi: I'll check out the Yam idea
Madpaddy:
I had some swiss chard in the garden as an experiment for a winter crop...it grows just fine....but when I went to harvest....it didn't taste nearly as good as the stuff I used to pick from my family's garden.
Of course I bought a potted one and planted it....I am sure they didn't water it enough, that might have caused it? Or maybe because it was grown over the cold months perhaps?
I also thought swiss chard needed to be replanted each year? I am looking for a "fire and forget" kind of thing that won't require attention or yearly replantings. Not 100% this is right, since I can't remember the source. _________________ Can solar power save us from fossil fuel depletion? Too late? Time to start a Garden!
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
I don't think leaf beet is the same as swiss chard. I planted leaf beet three seasons ago. We used it the first season and second season. Halfway throught the second season, it bolted and we ate the rest of it and pulled up the stumps but I left one stump in the ground as an experiment. 2 lovely new leaf beet plants have grown out of the stump. I'm so pis.ed off that I pulled up the rest. I have other new plants grown. We eat leaf beet uncooked as a lettuce substitute (only it has tonnes of vitamin c and iron). We also shred it and cook it in soups and casseroles. By some way it has been our most successful and useful vegetable. It also can be picked fresh for about 8.5 months of the year. _________________ www.askaboutenergy.com
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2674 Location: Vancouver Island
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
You'd be amazed how many people don't reconize vegetables if they aren't in a vegetable garden in nice straight rows. I've bordered my fruit trees with onions and most people don't recognize them for what they are. I have no doubt that I could mix a few potato's in with my flowers and get away with it. _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3384 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
Something nobody has mentioned are yellow or Vidalia onion. Mine are planted just like any other bulb plant and once a year or so I harvest the very dark geen stems which are very potent as chilli spice or for other dishes. The ones I planted three years ago when we bought this house survived a very harsh February and March (by Michigan standards) and are growing fine right now despite the fact that we have had several hard frosts and two weeks of below normal temps falling below 0C/32F every night.
I would think they would be fine in Vancouver. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
All excellent for nutrition, easy to grow (some require wetland). These can be hidden in wild areas-even on another's property, along streams, etc...
You should also learn local plants used as food by native people and ways to prepare "famine foods" like tree cambium, black lichen and alder catkins.
I'm already growing some of the above, but mostly do not know what part of the plant to eat - besides the leaves, or roots in some cases. For example, what part of the cattail do you eat, and how do you prepare? I've read native Americans made it into some type of flour, which seems difficult. Is that what you suggest? _________________ It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
Joined: May 15, 2005 Posts: 4144 Location: THE MATRIX
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
Madpaddy wrote:
Sorry,
I'm an ass. Swiss chard is leef beat.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: What would you plant....
DantesPeak wrote:
I'm already growing some of the above, but mostly do not know what part of the plant to eat - besides the leaves, or roots in some cases. For example, what part of the cattail do you eat, and how do you prepare? I've read native Americans made it into some type of flour, which seems difficult. Is that what you suggest?
Cattail flour can be made from both the pollen and the roots. Pollen can be a partial substitute for other flours in recipes. The starch in the roots can be separated from the fibers by crushing them in water and allowing them to soak. The starch should settle on the bottom. Drain the old water off and add new water and allow the starch to settle again. Repeat as necessary. I guess some people eat it fresh like that and some dry it.
I haven't done this, but I definitely plan on trying it this year if I can find a pollution-free cattail swamp. The description above is straight from the book Stalking the Wild Asparagus, which describes how to prepare all sorts of easily available wild foods, including Jerusalem Artichokes. I've looked in the ethnographic lit to see how local Indians in my area used cattails, but for some reason they don't seem to have eaten them. But they were an important source of fiber for mats, baskets, and the like.
This article also describes the various uses of cattail. He cites a study that showed per-acre yield of cattails can be 10 times that of potatoes. Not sure how that works out in terms of calories, but cattails are clearly an extremely productive plant with a lot of food and fiber uses. Hard part around here is finding a good swamp that isn't right next to a road or a sink for all the pesticides that nearby farms spray.
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