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Aaron 800 lb Gorilla

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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He seems more closely aligned with the consensus views here at PeakOil.com, than any other candidate.
Should we as a community endorse his candidacy for President?
I'm not sure I would feel comfortable endorsing any other candidate... that's certain.
So... ? _________________ "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts.
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davep Expert


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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I thought the presidential race was over. I would have gone for Nicolas Hulot had he presented himself. _________________ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. - Buddha |
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diemos Tar Sands


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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| I think that if peakoil.com is going to get into the political arena then it should confine itself to endorsing policies regardless of which politician implements them. |
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zoidberg Heavy Crude


Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 492 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Will peakoil.com endorse other leaders in other countries as well? We arent all Americans.
At any rate I'm sure among peakoil.com's American members theres probably some divergence of opinion about who to support. It wouldn't be appropriate to put an "official" stamp on any candidate when its far from clear everyone supports him. |
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roccman Fusion


Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 4262 Location: The Great Sonoran Desert
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Yes _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
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seahorse2 Expert


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Roy Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 715 Location: Western North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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A most definite and certain YES.
Thanks for asking!
The fact that mainstream Republicans are calling him a kook and the MSM is ridiculing him at every opportunity only strengthens my support of the man. Obvioulsy he is a threat to the status quo, which is a good thing in my book.
I don't agree with his views on abortion but, after going over his website and his positions, I think its a fair trade. Especially after doing the same with the other candidates. |
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IslandCrow Intermediate Crude


Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Why not let Halonen have another term as President of the Republic? _________________ We should teach our children the 4-Rs: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle and Rejoice. |
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pip Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 21, 2004 Posts: 508 Location: Republic of Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Yes,
The first candidate in any race I've felt any kind of enthusiasm for. _________________ The road goes on forever and the party never ends - REK |
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dinopello Fission


Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 2619 Location: The Urban Village
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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I'm happy Paul is in the race, but on his website, it doesn't even list energy as an issue much less say what his position is.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
I'm guessing his position is that the federal government should have no role at all in energy related matters since it isn't in the constitution ? Maybe that is a good thing, I'm just asking. |
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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3449 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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| Aaron wrote: | He seems more closely aligned with the consensus views here at PeakOil.com, than any other candidate.
Should we as a community endorse his candidacy for President?
I'm not sure I would feel comfortable endorsing any other candidate... that's certain.
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No no NO 1000 times NO!
PO.com should never endorse any candidate anywhere for anything! PO is NOT a pollitical problem, it is a geological problem with no pollitical solution.
While I agree with about 95% of what Ron Paul says he wants to do I still say No to an endorsement.
For one thing if he goes down in flames as I expect he will well before the election it will reflect badly on PO.com. The last thing we need now that some are starting to pay attention is to link ourselves to a shooting star which may end up shooting us in the foot, to mix my metaphores.
If you want to endorse him as Aaron as your personal favorite that is a fine example of free speach, if PO,com does so as a group it is jumping into the pollitics side of the world that usually results in sound and fury but accomplishes nothing.
Let us all be individuals and act as we think is right on this matter, not as a collective where some are dragged along for things they do not beleive in but are expected to accept through association. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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Aaron 800 lb Gorilla

Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 6392 Location: Houston
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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| Quote: | | Let us all be individuals and act as we think is right on this matter, not as a collective where some are dragged along for things they do not beleive in but are expected to accept through association. |
Sounds just like Paul to me... lol _________________ "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts.
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Roy Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 715 Location: Western North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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Good question Dinopello. I noticed the same thing, but I guess with his Libertarian bent, he's figuring that the market will take care of the problem.
Maybe he's right. People will use less imported energy when they can't afford it! Regardless of what happens outside the US, we will use less eventually. I'd rather see it done like that instead of a prolonged resource war ruining the country and causing its collapse, which seems like where we're heading IMO.
Its not a matter of if, just a matter of when. He favors bringing our worldwide military presence home immediately. The end of empire. Can you imagine it?
I imagine that would have an effect on the price we pay for energy, since it won't be subsidized by our massive military spending as many astute posters on this site have so eloquently pointed out.
I have to say I agree with those folks. The sooner we start 'hitting the brakes' the less pain we're going to experience, as a country. |
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auscanman Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 296 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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| An emphatic yes. He might not be addressing PO, but at least he is not beholden to the vested interests all the other candidates are. |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6375 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Should PeakOil.com Endorse Ron Paul for Prez? |
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I guess I am thinking no as well.
PO.com has enough problems with our somewhat radical projections to effectively get our core message across to the average guy without aligning ourselves with any particular candidate and alienating whole groups.
Members and volunteers should condemn or endorse each or any or all candidates in specific threads but as a community I think we should stay neutral. _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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