Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
It's like I'm a manic/depressive who is fast-cycling. One day I think that I have a few years and want to pay off my debts, work on the garden, teach my kids, etc. The next I feel all is lost and I want to use up all of my resources to take one last vacation before the convenience of modern America disappears forever.
No matter which part of the cycle I'm in, I feel like crap!
Of course, I only act on the "responsible" side of the cycle, but if this doom and gloom keeps up too much longer I just might snap. They'll find me lying on the beach in Florida, mumbling to myself and twitching while I down screwdrivers.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
The fight between optimism and despair/panic. I too suffer some from this. Unfortunately I tend to get stuck on the despair/panic end for weeks at a time. Makes normal day-to-day life difficult. _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
I've had a second job now for 18 months. Im loving it. Im spending every cent and enjoying every moment. I just purchased a new car and I love it it's a bit of a gas guzzler but who cares.
Weeee over the cliff with my foot to the floor. My mortgage is fixed and is less than my annual income _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
You must live somewhere in the north, where the weather is nasty at the moment. Go to a tanning salon and replenish your vitamin D or whatever it is that keeps that winter depression from happening.
When springtime hits, get a garage sale bike and start taking the kids on long bike rides in the country. It will take your mind off of the current situation, it it will build their character, it will make the whole family more mobile, in case there is an oil-related meltdown, and it will give you some exercise,which will help the attitude.
Be thankful you are not in one of those crazy little countries in Africa where things really are bad.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
pup55 wrote:
You must live somewhere in the north, where the weather is nasty at the moment. Go to a tanning salon and replenish your vitamin D or whatever it is that keeps that winter depression from happening.
...Be thankful you are not in one of those crazy little countries in Africa where things really are bad.
Good advice and perspective Vitamin D is a good thing, visiting the tanning salon or vitamin isle aren't bad ideas.
This stuff doesn't ever bother me much. I enjoy digging for facts and what happens happens. But I know it gets to a lot of people, like Ludi, she's a great poster but this stuff really gets to her now and then...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
one_more_day wrote:
One day I think that I have a few years and want to pay off my debts, work on the garden, teach my kids, etc. The next I feel all is lost and I want to use up all of my resources to take one last vacation before the convenience of modern America disappears forever.
That's my theory of why TPTB downplay peak oil. Those that think at all assume more people will immediately start acting irresponsibly and it will hasten the downfall. That, and they are not yet ready themselves.
I've pretty much stopped mentioning it to people either. Those my age are too far over the hill to plan for hard physical labor and, like me, are just going to let the chips fall where they may. Life has been relatively good to me and I'm not afraid to leave when the time comes.
If I were young and felt the world owed me a living as so many do today, I might just run up the credit card debt and have the fling that won't be possible in the future. I know someone older than me who did that and it looks like the credit card companies just wrote him off.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
pup55 wrote:
You must live somewhere in the north, where the weather is nasty at the moment. Go to a tanning salon and replenish your vitamin D or whatever it is that keeps that winter depression from happening.
When springtime hits, get a garage sale bike and start taking the kids on long bike rides in the country. It will take your mind off of the current situation, it it will build their character, it will make the whole family more mobile, in case there is an oil-related meltdown, and it will give you some exercise,which will help the attitude.
Be thankful you are not in one of those crazy little countries in Africa where things really are bad.
Yeah...you're right. The low was -12 last night. I have been doing a lot of hiking down by the river recently, and that seems to help.
Really I'm not bad off at all. It's just that I'm a control freak who doesn't like change or too many variables. You could see how PO would mess up my mind there!
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
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control freak who doesn't like change or too many variables
Let me guess....female.
(edit to keep from catching hell from the board)
Not to imply that there is anything right or wrong with this. I believe it is a survival mechanism that was selected for somehow during the late pleistocene era.
It helped the survival of the tribe while the rest of us were off trying to figure out how to kill mastodons and run bison off cliffs, while at the same time trying to keep from being eaten by a sabre-toothed cat.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
I can see the female side of it as well pup55. In prehistoric
eras while the menfolk hunted and then ate the best bits
off the carcass, the women and kids waited back at the cave
for the dudes to drag the skulls home for them. Prehistoric
canned goods as it were, and damn sure a good reason to
have a case of the blues. In truth, you make a great point
about countering the winter blahs to keep the doom meter
out of the red zone. Thanks.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
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single person
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teach my kids
Single person with kids. I can see where you are worried about all of this. I respect your courage in trying to deal with this situation.
However, you would be surprised how tough those little ones can be. Also, you would be surprised how much they are aware of your moods, etc. so will pick up on it right away if you are freaking out, particularly if you are the main adult caregiver.
This might be an interesting topic for a thread in the "planning for the future" forum.
I have been around some of the grown up version of this type of kids, and for the most part they do okay, but a lot of them are kind of squishy when they reach teenagerhood. I still recommend strenuous exercise for both kids and mom. Helps with self-sufficiency, gets them away from the video games, and has some potential for positive social interaction for the whole crew.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
one_more_day wrote:
It's like I'm a manic/depressive who is fast-cycling. One day I think that I have a few years and want to pay off my debts, work on the garden, teach my kids, etc. The next I feel all is lost ....
No matter which part of the cycle I'm in, I feel like crap!
.... if this doom and gloom keeps up too much longer I just might snap.
Am I married to you? Seriously, though, your post reminds me a lot of what I watch my husband go through.
Hard on you (and him and me!).
Lumpy _________________ Dean Karnazes : "Run when you can, walk when you have to, crawl if you must; just never give up." --- Jackie Joyner-Kersee: "It is better to look forward & prepare, than to look back & regret."
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
pup55 wrote:
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single person
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teach my kids
Single person with kids. I can see where you are worried about all of this. I respect your courage in trying to deal with this situation.
However, you would be surprised how tough those little ones can be. Also, you would be surprised how much they are aware of your moods, etc. so will pick up on it right away if you are freaking out, particularly if you are the main adult caregiver.
This might be an interesting topic for a thread in the "planning for the future" forum.
I have been around some of the grown up version of this type of kids, and for the most part they do okay, but a lot of them are kind of squishy when they reach teenagerhood. I still recommend strenuous exercise for both kids and mom. Helps with self-sufficiency, gets them away from the video games, and has some potential for positive social interaction for the whole crew.
Others may have more constructive suggestions.
It's very hard to do sometimes, but facing fear and uncertainty with absolute confidence teaches kids to do the same thing. It doesn't matter what you are facing, do it with strength (kind of like Yoda teaches) and your kids will be better off. I don't always do this, but when I do I notice that things are a lot less jumpy with my kids and in my house in general. Most freaking out is the result of your imagination messing with you, as opposed to the actual thing you are dreading. Dealing with the thing you are dreading tends to be simple compared to sitting around stewing about it.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
pup55 wrote:
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single person
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teach my kids
Single person with kids. I can see where you are worried about all of this. I respect your courage in trying to deal with this situation.
However, you would be surprised how tough those little ones can be. Also, you would be surprised how much they are aware of your moods, etc. so will pick up on it right away if you are freaking out, particularly if you are the main adult caregiver.
This might be an interesting topic for a thread in the "planning for the future" forum.
I have been around some of the grown up version of this type of kids, and for the most part they do okay, but a lot of them are kind of squishy when they reach teenagerhood. I still recommend strenuous exercise for both kids and mom. Helps with self-sufficiency, gets them away from the video games, and has some potential for positive social interaction for the whole crew.
Others may have more constructive suggestions.
Just to clear up a few points...
I was referring to single people without kids. I think they have a lot more freedom to respond as they see fit to the current conditions.
My custody agreement with my ex requires me to stay in my county. That means I have no choice but to live in the city. My dear husband (#2) is PO aware and supports my efforts prepare. However, he is tied down by needing to care for his aging father. For the next 15 years at least, we are stuck where we are.
What I do worry about is feeding 4 people vs. 1, keeping 4 people together during an emergency evacuation instead of just being able to grab a bag and go, etc. The planning is much more complicated. I do all I can to teach them skills that will be useful in the future. I know they can travel on foot a long ways if need be. They might not get everything handed to them, but they'll probably survive
I can't let the kids in on my doomerishness. I'm sure their bio-dad would love to get his hands on that info and have me court-ordered for a psych-eval. Everything I teach them has to be introduced as a "hobby": Hiking, gardening, raising rabbits, survival skills.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: My Jekyll and Hyde routine
Ups and Downs here as well. Omega 3 (fish oil) 3,000 mgs a day helps...also extra d and daily vit's and minerals are key...riding the bike...blah blah...works for me, most of he time.
So, I know there is no place to go to avoid PO and Global Warming...but, America is beginning to seem all to surreal!
I am having second thoughts about raising my kid in a society based on fear and consumer MADNESS. Now they wanna give us a check this spring to spend on crap to make the economy roll? I saw a guy from the GW admin on the tube today mentioning that the check shouldn't be spent on paying off debt or on bills....because in his words, "that wouldn't help the economy one bit". Where am I? Staying around and sticking it out here is seeming less and less attractive. But, reality creeps an and I am stuck here. The wife wouldn't take our daughter away from the grandparents and most likely she'll be the one to care for her parents in the next 10 years. Guess I better continue my prepping of the estate.
Just my two cents...what ever that's worth these days.
cb _________________ President Bush: “There’s no question about it. Wall Street got drunk—that’s one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras. It got drunk, and now it’s got a hangover."
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Vitamin D is a good thing, visiting the tanning salon or vitamin isle aren't bad ideas.
