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lys3rg0 Heavy Crude


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vision-master Fusion


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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steam_cannon Expert


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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Luxim's plasma lightbulb (140 Lumens per watt!)
Looks pretty good, twice as bright as LED!
Also they made an interesting comment that there are no electrodes.
They say it's argon, I'd guess there might be some mercury vapor in
there too and the gas is excited by either microwave or induction.
Anyway, the lack of electrodes is what makes it possible to reach much
higher temperatures (they say 6000 Kelvin), without any electrodes to erode.
Nice find lys3rg0! |
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FireJack Heavy Crude


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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| Well its works but its not just how much light it can produce. Now comes the gauntlet of durability, manufacturing, cost, safety etc. |
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Homesteader Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1162 Location: Central NC
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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Are the resources available in sufficient quantity for the mass market?
I did a few google searches but couldn't find any info. Thinking REEs specifically since so many of our hi-tech gadgets need them. |
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steam_cannon Expert


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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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| Homesteader wrote: | | Are the resources available in sufficient quantity for the mass market? | Judging how I believe this product probably works, I really don't see
any exotic materials needed that would limit production. |
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tsakach Heavy Crude


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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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The device appears to be an electrode-less halogen bulb driven by resonating microwave energy.
According to Luxim's US Patent 7,348,732, the device operates by maintaining a resonating microwave frequency between 0.5 to 30 GHz inside a solid-state waveguide. The bulb functions as part of the waveguide and contains noble gas and metal halides.
The only drawback seems to be the complexity of the electronics and bulb that functions as part of the waveguide. In comparison, just one stage of the design, such as the voltage source for the microwave transmitter may be as complex as the entire electronics for a compact fluorescent bulb.
So it might be well suited for applications such as streetlights or stadium lighting where premiums are paid for high reliability and efficiency. |
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steam_cannon Expert


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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Luxim claims 140 lumens per watt in new plasma lightbulb |
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| tsakach wrote: | The device appears to be an electrode-less halogen bulb driven by
resonating microwave energy.
According to Luxim's US Patent 7,348,732, the device operates by
maintaining a resonating microwave frequency between 0.5 to 30 GHz
inside a solid-state waveguide. The bulb functions as part of the
waveguide and contains noble gas and metal halides.
The only drawback seems to be the complexity of the electronics
and bulb that functions as part of the waveguide. In comparison,
just one stage of the design, such as the voltage source for the
microwave transmitter may be as complex as the entire electronics
for a compact fluorescent bulb.
So it might be well suited for applications such as streetlights or
stadium lighting where premiums are paid for high reliability and
efficiency. | Thanks for the patent link! So it works kind of how I guessed, cool.
By the way, if anyone wants to know how to build one of these like
for a science fair:
Microwave Plasma 2 (energized candle plasma in a bowl)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RFyh5ABcQ
Microwave Grape Plasma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6WCkC0K1I
http://barnesos.net/homepage/lpl/grapeplasma/
Considering that people have been doing this at home in their
microwaves, it's not to surprising that someone came up with the
idea of a light source based on this. Very cool stuff! |
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