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50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealand?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealand? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yet another newly discovered hydrocarbon basin. These are starting to get boring.

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Mr Uruski said that early seismic work on the Raukumara basin suggested that area could also hold billions of barrels of oil.

About 10,000 sq km of the region held source rock, which could be expelling oil, with a potential capacity of about five million barrels for each square kilometre.

"There could be about 50 billion barrels," Mr Uruski said.

Yes, much of this is in deep water and blah blah blah. Oh well. It's starting to look like there's a lot of these, so their commonality offsets the relative difficulty and extra expense of extracting the oil from them.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Operation Kiwi Liberation?

qtank

But seriously, this is great news for New Zealand. They are currently a major oil importer. This field will reduce their massive trade deficit and set them on a better financial footing to prepare for an oil free future...assuming they don't just waste the cash on BS social programs and new sports stadiums.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:
Operation Kiwi Liberation?

qtank

But seriously, this is great news for New Zealand. They are currently a major oil importer. This field will reduce their massive trade deficit and set them on a better financial footing to prepare for an oil free future...assuming they don't just waste the cash on BS social programs and new sports stadiums.



I'm betting on the New super delux with built in hockey rink Kiwi Dome!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:
Operation Kiwi Liberation?

qtank

But seriously, this is great news for New Zealand. They are currently a major oil importer. This field will reduce their massive trade deficit and set them on a better financial footing to prepare for an oil free future...assuming they don't just waste the cash on BS social programs and new sports stadiums.


Now let me see. Would I rather my government spent the money on free education or some other BS social program, or democraticising some far flung country?

Waddya reckon Tyler?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Social programs are fine, so long as they are sustainable.

Would you argue that the level of social spending in a country like Venezuela or Iran is sustainable given a decline in oil revenues?

If they use the money in order to increase welfare payments rather than build infrastructure or pay down debt, the money was not well spent.

In the short term, the locals will be happy but in the long term when the resource runs out, the locals will be angry that the money wasn't put to better use.

The United Kingdom is a great example of this. They spent every last dime that came out of the North Sea and have very little to show for it. To be fair, most of it was exploited when prices were extremely low. New Zealand's oil will come online with prices in the triple digits.

Conclusion:

Bonanza for NZ, let's just hope they are smart about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

there is really no way to know the oil is there until you drill. You can have marvelous source rocks and reservoirs, but the geologic structures may have been leaky and lost part or even all their oil.

In 10 years hopefully the kiwis will have punched a few holes in and they'll know what actually there.

I spent a year living in NZ in the 90s.....hope this works out for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"However, any development could be a decade away, according to the Petroleum Exploration and Production Association"

this i think is the key phrase
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Well for the serious tinfoil hat nutters, this has been known about for decades, and was deliberately kept quiet by Muldoon in cahoots with the CIA.

From the Opal files / gemstone files circa 1995:

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Mid-July, 1968: Placid Oil Co and the Seven Sisters (major oil companies) begin Great South Basin oil exploration - Hunt finances 45.5% of exploration costs, Gulf Oil 14.5%, Shell (US) 10%, B.P. Oil 10%, Standard Oil California 10%, Mobil 6.5% and Arco 6.5%.

12th October, 1968: Hunt and Seven Sisters announce confirmation of new oil source comparable to the Alaskan North Slope - gas reserves estimated at 150 times larger than the Kapuni Field.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

electric_future wrote:
Well for the serious tinfoil hat nutters, this has been known about for decades, and was deliberately kept quiet by Muldoon in cahoots with the CIA.

From the Opal files / gemstone files circa 1995:

click on the "show quoted text" link here for a serious brain burn

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Mid-July, 1968: Placid Oil Co and the Seven Sisters (major oil companies) begin Great South Basin oil exploration - Hunt finances 45.5% of exploration costs, Gulf Oil 14.5%, Shell (US) 10%, B.P. Oil 10%, Standard Oil California 10%, Mobil 6.5% and Arco 6.5%.

12th October, 1968: Hunt and Seven Sisters announce confirmation of new oil source comparable to the Alaskan North Slope - gas reserves estimated at 150 times larger than the Kapuni Field.



No need to bring out the tinfoil hats and invoke the CIA....

Oil companies ALWAYS keep their discoveries quiet to keep the competition out and to minimize the amount they have to pay for land leases and exploration right.

There are a lot of deep water basins and oil plays out there that weren't economic 20-30 years ago at $10-30/barrel that will now get a second look and ultimately be developed.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

10 years ? lol by then oil will be back to 20 dollars a barrel after demand destruction via die off.

Or New Zealand will have a new name on the map. New Taiwan Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oil strike could triple NZ GDP

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New Zealand could potentially triple its GDP in the event of a big oil strike, according to bullish investors at the Crown Minerals' Petroleum conference yesterday.

By 2010 the Tui, Maari, Kupe and Pohakura fields will be producing 140 million barrels a year.

“New Zealand’s total oil production will then be at a record level not seen since the heady days of Maui,” he said.


Geophysicist Chris Uriski, of crown research institute GNS, said that New Zealand could be the “North Sea of the South Pacific”.

Mr Uriski's findings of seismic data in the Raukumara basin off the east coast of the North Island were reported in the NBR last month.

He said that in total New Zealand's oil stocks could be ten times the size of the productive Tarankai basin, or 170 billion barrels.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I suspect they will find oil off the coast there, just depends how much and how easy it is to get to.

Hopefully any finds will be < 10 billion barrels though, otherwise we're going to have a big crosshair on our head from Japan / China / US looking to invade for our countryside and black gold.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Lanthanide wrote:
I suspect they will find oil off the coast there, just depends how much and how easy it is to get to.

Hopefully any finds will be < 10 billion barrels though, otherwise we're going to have a big crosshair on our head from Japan / China / US looking to invade for our countryside and black gold.
Didnt you just get rid of your air force a couple of years ago......



And will this mean you can afford a decent coach so you can have a crack at that rugby world cup thing the other ex dominions keep winning? (Scotland fan. Yes I am that smug this week.)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Not that I would call a dozen aging planes an 'airforce'.

We have no real military to speak of - we can defend ourselves from pacific islands, but that's about it.


As for rugby, my interest is 0.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: 50 billion barrels off the northeast coast of New Zealan Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Lanthanide wrote:
Not that I would call a dozen aging planes an 'airforce'.

We have no real military to speak of - we can defend ourselves from pacific islands, but that's about it.


I wouldn't worry too much. The EROEI of invading NZ for even 20 billion barrels has got to be ridiculously low.
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