Is it just me, or is PO really hitting the main stream?

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971

On another note, is it just me, or have things REALLY taken a sharp turn for he worse in the last 3 months?

I am, very seriously, an uber doomer, and I have been since reading LATOC about 3 years ago.

I guess the reality of the nearness of the EOTWAWKI seems to be on the MSM, which really bums me out, because even the donkeyshit eaters will look up from the trough at some point if it gets blared enough at them.

Food riots starting around the world. Oil price seemingly in a Mercury 5 trajectory. Limitations on how much grain you can buy from a box store in Cali and/or NE. Peak Oil and food supply issues regularly appearing on Drudge.

Ug.

hironegro · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 08, 2008 Posts: 343

I think a lot of it has to do with the mainstream paradigms failing to properly answer a lot of these issues. If the situation gets worse we will see more ideas & concepts having to do with resource depletion.

kpeavey · Expert Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 1244

Drudge is Peak Oil aware, has been for some time. Rather than come out of the closet as a doomer, he simply adds links to his site.

Peak Oil is not a theory, it is a projection. One which is coming to fruition. At this point, the effects are presenting on a global scale and can no longer be hidden. While the MSM continues to report on the effects in the form of crises worldwide, they have yet to put 2 and 2 together. If the MSM were to report to the world in a manner that the common man could understand, and to a wide enough audience such that it can not be missed, there would be mass hysteria: food hoarding, panic, fuel hoarding, weapons purchasing, hostility, upheaval in the stock and commodity markets, civil disorder, runs on the banks. It is better that the sheeple be left in the dark lest it all come tumbling down.

While there is still time and the economy is still functioning, use it to prepare.
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Ayoob · Expert Joined: Jul 15, 2004 Posts: 1051

Yeah, it's a topic of conversation these days. People have been talking about gas prices for a couple years now, and nothing's gotten better. In fact... it's worse!

Next it'll be meat prices, then medical care, etc. Sooner or later, Americans will realize that our fantastic abundant lifestyles are going to be only seen in the rearview mirror.

kokoda · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 24, 2006 Posts: 422

The main stream media still ignore it. I am yet to see the words "Peak Oil" appear in the headlines of any major newspaper and magazine.

The reason behind oil price rises are never fully explained in news bulletins.

If anything it seems that there is a conspiracy of silence.

We are seeing some coverage from non - mainstream sources but I fear for as long as the rich control the media we are never going to get the whole truth about PO. They have too much to lose.

mos6507

I think there is a growing acceptance of the peak oil theory, but NOT a recognition that we are yet post-peak. When it's covered, it's still qualified with the catchphrase "there is still plenty of oil left". They know there is a problem. They just think it will resolve itself. They still seems to think there is a way for supply to catch up with demand through drilling the newly discovered fields and unconventional sources.

For instance, I just watched a news report on cable on the tar sands where the reporter was beaming with a smile talking to the main investor, like "Gee, isn't this a great thing that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel of EROEI? Now we're all saved!"

mmasters

Yeah the public is getting sold on ultra lightweight PO. When a crisis happens and or the cost of a new war inflates the currency of this country on par with Argentina people will have a rude awakening!

Shortages, mass sickness and widespread desperation are a certainty.
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The two great hopes that are trotted out are ethanol and tar sands (though the truth about ethanol seems to be getting out).

In other words, as long as you don't need food or potable water, we have plenty of energy.
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wxman · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 176

kokoda · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 24, 2006 Posts: 422

Unfortunately most stories I seem to find read are like this

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=acpwND3.n05g&refer=home

They state the obvious that demand is rising ... but they give the impression that supply has merely failed to catch up to demand.

The truth of course is that supply will never again match demand. No mention is made of that possibility in this article, or anyone of a dozen more I have read over the last month.

You may read the odd opinion piece such as the folksy little article mentioned in one of the above posts ... but no hard hitting stories.

Aaron

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1686824,00.html
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I have definitely seen some slight penetration of awareness of PO into the mainstream media reports. For example, "peaking of production" in several countries was mentioned on the NBC or ABC nightly news within the past few days (can't remember which network; I flip back and forth between them to try to extract something useful out of all the crap).

Soaring prices will finally force more of the facts into the public's face.
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Twilight · Expert Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 2971 Location: UK

Wait until energy supply adequacy statistics are viewed with the same contempt as official measures of price inflation. That is when peak oil can be called mainstream.
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