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Cid_Yama
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When I realized the world was dying back in the 1970's(although not the extent and speed), I decided I wanted to spend my life observing and documenting the dying of the planet. Never, of course, expecting I might actually see the end in my lifetime. Now I am not so sure.

The acceleration of global warming, coinciding with the depletion of energy resources, and the defense mechanisms of denial, fantasy and rationalization inherent in the psychological makeup of man, leads me to believe that mankind is incapable of effectively responding.(If we had been, we would have already done so.)

The same scenario has been observed in many different species on the planet. Species fill their ecological nische until available resources are expended, then experience a die-off back to levels below that necessary for those remaining to survive. Man has exhausted the resources of the planet necessary to his own continued survival. The cupboards are now bare, and there is nothing left to refill them.

The end is now upon us. Within the next decade the world as we know it will end. Already the poorer nations on the planet can no longer afford energy resources and are dark.(Night-time satellite views show large areas of the planet in total darkness.)

Grain reserves have evaporated. Significant populations on the planet are already experiencing famine. With famine comes pandemics. Soon disease will traverse the planet carried by airliners to all corners of the globe. Disease may breed in the poorer starving nations, but will not remain there.

I recently saw a story in the BBC, saying a large percentage of the people interviewed did not know food came from a farm.(How could we have fallen so far?)

The skills necessary to survive without gas stations and grocery stores does not exist within a vast majority of the population. The misery to come is beyond imagining. I used to be certain that, due to my age, I would be spared the worst of it. Now I worry my parents will no longer be spared, that they may see this horrible end. We are beyond global survival, we are probably beyond community survival.

Concentrate on your family, friends and yourselves. There is still time to educate the kids, at least provide them with a library(books not electronic) of necessary knowledge to aid their survival. Ask the simple questions. What do you do for toilet paper? How do you preserve food without a fridge? What about soap?. Think, what would you do if every grocery store closed and you could only go as far as you can walk or ride a bicycle? What if there was no electricity, natural gas or water running to your house? This is what is coming.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

A civilisation founded on fantasy has lost touch with fundamentals.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Words of wisdom. Unfortunately, few will understand. Fewer still will act.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The time of the Sixth Sun is near, very near.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hello Cid,

Sobering post indeed.

Could you post a link to the night time satellite imagery you mention?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hi Cid, exactly my thoughts, very good post. Some years ago if you talked of oil at $120 and of worldwide food shortages you where scaremongering; this is happening right now and still the most serious consecuences are to come (not very far in the future BTW). In the same way, there´s evidence of the impact of GW but people now, even in this forum, give their backs to that, in the hope that nothing will happen.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Actually they called us doomers and said we were scaremongering just a year ago.

I'ld like to hear just one of them say they are sorry and we were right.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid, I liked your last Avatar better.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm going back. I'm just teasing mos right now.

But there are still plenty of Avatars available if anyone would like to join us.

http://www.shadolibrary.org/crew/straker/indexb.htm
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid_Yama wrote:
Actually they called us doomers and said we were scaremongering just a year ago.

I'ld like to hear just one of them say they are sorry and we were right.


I actually HAVE had this happen....some of the people at work told my co-worker I'm a "prophet" and the things I have been talking about are starting to happen....(I told him to tell them to come here)...but we are going to start a church (I work for a grocery chain called HEB)....the church of the hebites....Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh, God. I've got the people around me terrified. I gave it to them without sugar coating about a year ago. They've now had a year to watch it unfold and it's like they're looking to me for salvation. Like if I just take it back, it will all be OK. That could be very dangerous when they start looking for scapegoats.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid_Yama wrote:
Oh, God. I've got the people around me terrified. I gave it to them without sugar coating about a year ago. They've now had a year to watch it unfold and it's like they're looking to me for salvation. Like if I just take it back, it will all be OK. That could be very dangerous when they start looking for scapegoats.


A global populace which is systematically conditioned to embrace consumerism euphorically will be a rather ugly force to contend with when the source of their euphoria is denied. For those of us with the will to prevail in such conditioning, the sight will be an unpleasant, solitary experience.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid, nice post. It is strangely comforting to hear from people that see the same disaster unfolding in the same grim detail and who articulate it well. It as about the only comfort left, these days, besides enjoying the last days of "normalcy."
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid_Yama wrote:
I recently saw a story in the BBC, saying a large percentage of the people interviewed did not know food came from a farm.


If I were an alien I would die of laughter. Very Happy

I guess that zombies do live among us.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: A Dismal but Sober View Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Couldn't get the Satellite Image to post here - so I put it on mine

This image really brings it all home.

Poor North Korea and Prosperous South Korea at night

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/172283.html
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