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Ache
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How Rising Oil Prices Are Obliterating America's Superpower Status
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

America needs to wake the hell up. Bush is a dumb chimp and the candidates for President are even dumber. Oil and gas need to be rationed right now and gas taxes doubled or its curtains for the good old USA.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Seems to ignore that this is a crushing burden for all the rest of the world except oil exporting countries. If we lose power and the rest of the world loses power also, what's the change? This is not like the fall of the Soviets, this is like something never experienced by man.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Fishman wrote:
Seems to ignore that this is a crushing burden for all the rest of the world except oil exporting countries.


The entire rest of the world can go down. Russia will return to super power status and the other major oil producers will become powers of their own.


I hate to say it but the best hope the US has is to invade Canada and use our resources to fund major war against the rest of the world.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Novus wrote:
America needs to wake the hell up. Bush is a dumb chimp and the candidates for President are even dumber. Oil and gas need to be rationed right now and gas taxes doubled or its curtains for the good old USA.


Rationing isn't necessary at this stage ... but a more realistic price structure for fuel is.

Fuel prices should be bought into line with what the rest of the world are paying. Too many years of cheap gas is what has caused a lot of these problems in the first place. If the US used less gas then the price of oil would drop and we might get a few more years of energy security.

America's balance of payments would be better, people would trade their SUVs for more sensible cars, all the soldiers could come home and everyone would be happier.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I hate to say it but the best hope the US has is to invade Canada and use our resources to fund major war against the rest of the world.


Not to be giving the monkeys in charge any ideas, mmmkay?

Besides, we're already working like maniacs to sell it to the US as fast as we can make it...
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

dbruning wrote:
I hate to say it but the best hope the US has is to invade Canada and use our resources to fund major war against the rest of the world.


This seem to be just an extension of a failed strategy. Materialism will not bring success. Its time to change our sick and tired economic paradigm in North America, not keep it on life support.

As the Lord says, "What does it profit a man [or a country] If he gains the whole world, but loses his soul." Just look at the failed materialist remnants of history - Rome, the British Empire, Napoleon's France, Hitler's Germany. We must all pray that the U.S.A. never joins this list! But, it seems we are destined to it with the current type of leadership. How ironic, a "Christian" presdent too!
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is nothing wrong with losing an Empire. Everyone has done it. The US can join the club and it will come as no great loss to the world. The only question is how the US adjusts to its change of status.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of an Oil-Addicted Former Superpower Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Novus wrote:
America needs to wake the hell up. Bush is a dumb chimp and the candidates for President are even dumber. Oil and gas need to be rationed right now and gas taxes doubled or its curtains for the good old USA.


The U.S. needs some oil shock therapy now to get lifestyles on track for survival in a near term future of constrained oil. It did it before in war time, and can do it again.
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