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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mythbusters compared an electric commuter car, an electric ATV, an electric drag bike, and an electric sports car each to it's respective internal combustion powered counterpart. The results were mostly favorable.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Leaving alongside peak-batteries, how long does it take to refill the tank on ICE, and how long on EV?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Wrightspeed car is actually about average for what you see on Silicon Valley roads every day. Unfortunately, don't have the $28,000 for an electric conversion of anything.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think the Chevy Volt is the car they should have compared it to. That goes pure electric for the 86% of normal driving, and has a small generator that maintains for long trips.

That way there's no loss of convenience, but a large fuel savings and pure electric range that's enough for most if there isn't any fuel.

Pure EV's won't sell yet, but the Volt will I think.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Volt isn't scheduled to go into production until 2010. I think it will be coming out in tiny numbers at first. Why didn't they just keep making the EV1? It was a production car that worked perfectly well.

http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cipi604 wrote:
Leaving alongside peak-batteries, how long does it take to refill the tank on ICE, and how long on EV?
Not as long as it takes to work enough to fill the tank of the ICE vehicle considering where gas prices are going. We're a long way from peak batteries btw. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cipi604 wrote:
Leaving alongside peak-batteries, how long does it take to refill the tank on ICE, and how long on EV?

How long does it take you to plug something in? I'd always charge my car overnight and never stop at a "filling" station ever again.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Mythbusters Compares Several EVs to ICEs Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When you plug in at home for an overnight charge, it takes about 15 seconds. No inconvenient trips to the gas station within whatever radius from your home the EV can ndrive without recharging. If that pack allows 300 miles range, most Americans might only see a 'recharge station' once or twice a year in the event that the infrastructure would be developed!

If fast charge infrastructure finally gets built(Southern California Edison tried to do it with Aerovironment's technology in the 1990s but the Western States Petroleum Association found a legal technicality that they used to prevent them from raising the money and going through with it!), EVs could be charged from 'empty' in under 30 minutes. While this is not as convenient as gasoline in terms of 'filling time', 30 minutes is 'close enough' and would make long trips by EVs with even only 100 miles range per charge(doable with primitive lead acid!) quite practical.
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