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Cashmere
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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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Really quite disconcerting.
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GASMON
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
EVERYONE must die, oneday. PO will adjust the day forward for some, or many, dependant on unknown, but rapidly evolving circumstances, over what I beleive will be an extended period of time. (i.e. it wont be quick, but may be nasty).
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coyote
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| Quote: | | They've stopped building. |
Good.
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SILENTTODD
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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I know for a fact Mr. Pflueger will not be able to afford the mortgage on a $452,000 home; approx $2400 to $2600 a month with excellent credit, not counting Taxes and insurance, then you’re in the $3000 a month range.
Mr. Pflueger as a Cable/Telco installer, probably non union, in the state of Arkansas I know does not make what I do in California as a Union represented Telco worker. And as a single man, I could not afford that monthly rate! (At least if I wanted to eat).
But while it lasts, go for it Mr. Pflueger! Then spend an extra 6 months there while they have to evict you! (I've become a real Trotskyite in my old age). Then strip the place of its toilets and sinks and copper wiring if it has any before you go. Don't let some meth head profit from your laziness!
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MarkJ
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| Quote: | Mr. Pflueger had been out of work for eight weeks. Unable to afford the rent for their $475-a-month apartment, the couple was planning to move into a trailer in their daughter's back yard.
When their 12 months end, the Pfluegers will move on too -- perhaps to that trailer on their daughter's property. Mr. Pflueger recently found a job but still can't afford to buy the house. "That's way out of my league," Mr. Pflueger says" |
Between a down-payment, mortgage payment, taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance and repairs, I imagine even low end homes are out of his league since he can't afford a $475-a-month apartment. |
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pstarr
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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I love the 'Leave It To Beaver' 'Partridge Family' music at the beginning. Very chippy. 
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vision-master
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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$452,000 home in Arkansas. WTF?
Didn't Bill Clinton make like about $38,000 year as the Governor.  |
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BigTex
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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If those people wanted to be optimistic they could start cultivating all of those empty lots and growing food on them. If they were lucky they might be able to do it until the adverse possession statutory time had run and then the land would be theirs.
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It might be a great business to start buying up used RVs at fire sale prices today and start setting up a refugee camp if you have a little land. You could charge the refugees $300 a month to live in your refugee camp, and if you figure each of your used RVs cost around $3,000 you would be at 100% profit on each unit after 10 months.
You could even give the place an ironic name like "Camp Overshoot", or maybe "BigTex's Post-Apocalypse Dude Ranch."
You could host a big mudcake baking contest each week.
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vision-master
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| Quote: | "BigTex's Post-Apocalypse Dude Ranch."
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We have a winner folks! |
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3aidlillahi
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| Quote: | | If those people wanted to be optimistic they could start cultivating all of those empty lots and growing food on them. If they were lucky they might be able to do it until the adverse possession statutory time had run and then the land would be theirs. |
That's EXACTLY what I thought of right away when I read about the woman sitting on the back porch thinking that all of that land was theirs. Grow something on it! Get "free" food. It's unlikely that anybody is going to come by and catch you taking up the other yards.
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But while it lasts, go for it Mr. Pflueger! Then spend an extra 6 months there while they have to evict you! (I've become a real Trotskyite in my old age). Then strip the place of its toilets and sinks and copper wiring if it has any before you go. Don't let some meth head profit from your laziness! |
That last sentence goes perfect with your avatar. But you can expand this further and show that he CAN afford the 452,000 USD house. Just strip the other 30 or so-odd homes of their property values, sell 'em and pay for the house in cash!
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Cashmere
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| BigTex wrote: | If those people wanted to be optimistic they could start cultivating all of those empty lots and growing food on them. If they were lucky they might be able to do it until the adverse possession statutory time had run and then the land would be theirs.
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It might be a great business to start buying up used RVs at fire sale prices today and start setting up a refugee camp if you have a little land. You could charge the refugees $300 a month to live in your refugee camp, and if you figure each of your used RVs cost around $3,000 you would be at 100% profit on each unit after 10 months.
You could even give the place an ironic name like "Camp Overshoot", or maybe "BigTex's Post-Apocalypse Dude Ranch."
You could host a big mudcake baking contest each week. |
Tex, I'm a gonna let this one slide, because your lifetime batting average here is HOF stuff.
But there's a slight chink in your plan.
"Refugees" don't have 300 a month.
Of course, you could make them work for their lodging and food.
Then you could call it, "Big Tex's Feudal Estates".
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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Prehaps Baron Big Tex?
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TheDude
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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I was expecting a filmed scene out of Kunstler's novel, not a bunch of WASPs duded out in fashions from Target whining about how their investment fell through. Hunt up some footage of a stroll around a burned out inner city in the Rust Belt, that's what you'll see in 17 years writ large.
JHK had the baronial character with all the de facto indentured servants working for him, there's your "rent." 'Course people don't need an incentive to squat in packs, either.
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Forney2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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Cashmere, I must ask do you get off on overly bloated, frankenstein food ridden women?? Just asking, cause every avatar of yours has a nice piece of fat azz.  |
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Narz
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: A Vision of Suburbia Circa 2025 |
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| Forney2008 wrote: | | Cashmere, I must ask do you get off on overly bloated, frankenstein food ridden women?? Just asking, cause every avatar of yours has a nice piece of fat azz. |
Hey, there are beautiful women under there just dying to get out. While all the rest of your women die of starvation Cash will be left with a harem of svelte beauties with very slow metabolisms. Perfect genetics for a new world of scarcity. 
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