I will believe the Saudis don't see any upcoming problems with Ghawar when they cancel one of their projects due to low oil prices. If they continue to be full steam ahead with increasing their capacity then I think they are aware that Ghawar may not be as robust in 5 years time as they would like us to believe.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
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make and run my cars on ethanol or hydrogen.
Welcome aboard - you have a lot to learn.
Start with this - running cars on ethanol is probably a loss of energy, and you will never run your car on hydrogen, because you'd need a really expensive fuel cell for that.
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remember Jericho on CBS?
No, I don't and so don't most members of this site, because we generally don't watch the tv - it's where they hand out the donkey crap.
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that is what will happen I believe soon, if either Democrate is elected pres. the first thing to happen will be an attack to challenge them, both are weak on terrorist, they just want to talk and not retaleate like they should, then a fuel shortage will hit like nothing the world has seen .
Another thing you'll find about this site - while there are a few card carrying democrats and a few card carrying republicans, most people on this site understand that the Democrats and the Republicans are essentially the same thing. I know that's a tough concept, but it's correct - both parties stand for the same basic concepts.
Also, the "war on terror" is really just a big excuse for us to engage in endless resource wars. Put away your apple pie and your American Flag here - nobody is swayed by brave shows of patriotism.
Instead of being suckered in by "weak on terror" propaganda, think about what you are going to do in 20 years when neither you or the imaginary "terrorists" have any gasoline.
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I will end now and get back to reading this sight......
Awesome idea. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
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if either Democrate is elected pres. the first thing to happen will be an attack to challenge them, both are weak on terrorist, they just want to talk and not retaleate like they should, then a fuel shortage will hit like nothing the world has seen .
WOW - you do have some reading to do. Sounds like the fear-mongering has worked on you.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
eco-tech wrote:
I am not a total survivalist who thinks it will go to the point of total world break down but it will get bad, remember Jericho on CBS? that is what will happen I believe soon, if either Democrate is elected pres. the first thing to happen will be an attack to challenge them, both are weak on terrorist, they just want to talk and not retaleate like they should, then a fuel shortage will hit like nothing the world has seen .
Hmm.... the Dems retake the White House, and Iranian nukes start raining down from the skies. Maybe you are on to something- after all, it was on a half-baked TV show (kind of), and IF all the Rush Limbaughs out there reckon its going to happen as well, then... it's bound to happen! I think now might be the right time to invest in a really good umbrella.....
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
sounds like others have a lot to learn too, yes you can run your car on ethanol, I do,
you can run one on hydrogen, its called running on water but its not really, seen that done and am working on it myself
its not a Dem or republican issue its them personally, Hillary and Obama
Sorry nobody watches tv, you can learn alot from it
Guess this is going to be a hostle place to post so I will just read from now on....
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
eco-tech wrote:
sounds like others have a lot to learn too, yes you can run your car on ethanol, I do,
you can run one on hydrogen, its called running on water but its not really, seen that done and am working on it myself
its not a Dem or republican issue its them personally, Hillary and Obama
Sorry nobody watches tv, you can learn alot from it
Guess this is going to be a hostle place to post so I will just read from now on....
Yes it is a hostile place as is the real world. Sorry to burst your bubble but no 'eco' technology is going to get us out of this mess.
You, like most Americans, probably spend much too much time mesmerized by you television and the pablum that is designed for one purpose--our national purpose--to keep shopping. Peakoil is a depressing concept and kills the bottom line. Get used to it.
I see you deleted your post. Goodbye and thanks for reserving the bandwidth for someone with the strength of their convictions. You obviously have none. _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
dinopello wrote:
eco-tech wrote:
Sorry nobody watches tv, you can learn alot from it.
That's a good one!
Do you ever watch people watching TV? First their tiny facial muscles twitch at the exciting parts, then eventually their eyes roll back in their sockets, they drool, and finally they soil themselves. It is not a pretty sight _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Hello From Missouri
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sounds like others have a lot to learn too, yes you can run your car on ethanol, I do,
No you don't. You just think you do.
Let me ask you this. If I take 4,000 Joules worth of natural gas and convert it to octane using 2,000 Joules worth of natural gas to yield 5,000 Joules of octane, and then I run my car on the octane . . .
am I . . .
running my car on octane or
running my car on natural gas?
Obviously, I'm running my car on natural gas, in the greater sense.
Ethanol production is the process of turning natural gas and petroleum products into an alcohol.
It is either a net energy loss or very close to break even.
So you are not running your car on ethanol - you are running it on the fossil fuels you are burning to make the ethanol.
If you tell me that you are fermenting your own ethanol in your backyard (don't tell the BATF), then I tell you that the thing you are fermenting was produced with fossil fuels.
If you tell me that you grew your own corn using horses that are fed entirely from food from your property, which is farmed without fossil fuels, then I'd say you are, finally, mostly running your car on ethanol.
But you aren't doing that. Nobody is, because if they were, after about 2 or 3 seasons when they work thousands of hours to produce 10 or 50 gallons of fuel, they'll figure out, "it's just not worth driving."
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you can run one on hydrogen, its called running on water but its not really, seen that done and am working on it myself
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, like a rechargeable battery. It is not, itself, an energy source.
So if you are "running something on hydrogen", what you really are doing is running that something on whatever fossil fuel was used to "charge" the hydrogen in the first place.
But nice try. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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