WAR! for oil in Sudan between USA and China?

M_B_S · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 272

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7435012.stm

south are converging on central Sudan, a UN official has told the BBC.

The country was "on the brink" of a resumption of the 20-year civil war, said UN regional co-ordinator for South Sudan David Gressley.

The warning follows recent clashes in the oil-rich region of Abyei, which is claimed by both sides.

On Tuesday, the US envoy to Sudan warned that leaders from both sides were not interested in peace.
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Bushism!

War for oil make no sense.

Oil is the problem not the solution!

Peak Oil

M_B_S

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/IE25Cb04.html

wisconsin_cur · Moderator Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 3211

And how would you see the us and china getting involved? As suppliers of weapons? engaging in the war-making themselves?

I think I know what you are getting at but am curious to know for sure.
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M_B_S · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 272

Read the Asia times link!

Thousends of Chinees troops are allready in position, to protect their oil interests in Sudan!

The NATO is on the move to protect >civil rights< in Darfur ( Oil )
http://www.energybulletin.net/1638.html

HQ Africa Centcom is Germany

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/09/africa_command_to_be_based_in_germany/

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/NL03823365.htm

http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2008/05/sudanese-soldiers-battle-former.html

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Jack · Dark Lord Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 5123

WyoDutch

I don't see how the U.S. can ever go against the red chinese in an open military action.

We (America) have shipped our industrial infrascture to the third world and you cannot fight a war when the home front produces nothing tangible.

For better or worse, we're living in the declining years of the American Republic. The media is filled with images and stories that glorify war and drill into us, the need for an all-powerful federal government who will "Keep us safe".

While we mouth "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave", we've allowed the Constitution has become nothing but a relic of the past. If you have ANY doubts as to how the Constitution has been used as toilet paper by the power-grabbing politicians, simply read Amendment IV...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."....

Now that you've read it, explain how the sneak & peek provisions of the so-called "Patriot Act" can be squared with the original intent.

M_B_S · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 272

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kubel · Coal Joined: Jun 03, 2008 Posts: 3

I don't think the US will do war with China. With war comes the cessation of trade, and it's just not something either of us can afford to our ecomonies. Messed up economy is what we are trying to prevent by getting into oil wars. So I think China and the US have a sort of mutual understanding. "We'll let you take Africa, just leave us alone in the Middle East".
I think the larger countries in the best position to weather this storm are Russia (with its domestic supply of oil) and Brazil (with its domestic supply of sugar). The smaller oil-producing nations think they have it going for them, but they have no chance. They will just be occupied by the big powers.

mos6507

How dare you?

Another usurper to Cid's throne of anti-US news linkage!

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