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Nicholai
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 Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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A WONDERFUL interview on HardTalk (BBC) with Robert Baer.
Robert Baer is a former CIA operative and is VERY blunt about America's foreign policy with Iraq, Iran and the Middle East in general. He is very straight forward and brings a real breath of fresh air to the subject.
Baer puts forward that America must accept Iran as a regional superpower within the Mid East AND that an Iran with nuclear weapons is not a danger to the United States.
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We CANNOT attack Iran as a rational policy decision. Iran will take out oil in the Gulf. It will kick America into a depression at 12$ a gallon. |
Place, take a watch.
Robert Baer on US-Iran Relations Part 1
Part 2
Part 3 |
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Nicholai
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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cipi604
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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| Awesome. Thank you. |
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vetusfirma
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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this guy is a dolt.
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Nicholai
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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| Quote: | | this guy is a dolt. |
Explain yourself? |
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skeptik
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Evan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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Baer makes some really good points that should be obvious to any american politician.
And has any body read his book, "See no Evil"? |
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Peleg
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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The US is going to attack Iran unless major concession are forthcoming at this next meeting. They have song and danced this one for a while, but alot of preparations have been being made in the background. Even Putin told them they were going to get bombed.
It's Iraq 2, the Iranian people in general want democracy. It's only the elite clerics and the regime with element of the Revolutionary Guard that are imposing their views on everyone else. We sat back when the Shah was taken down, alot of people think Carter should have gone Persian Storm then.
I am not saying I have insider info, I'm just watching closely what information I see on the net and making a novice assessment of the situation, but everything I see says the launch window is real close. It solves alot of problems. Sadr is done if Iran is decapitated. The oil weapon coming out of Iran is over. Syria is defanged. We set ourselves up for a new cold war to be sure, but we are talking about GW. God told him to invade Iraq remember (he just neglected to tell us all that Dick Cheney also told him to invade Iraq.)
That is my $.02. Sometime within the next two months.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/25/8529/ |
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3rensho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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| Peleg wrote: | | the Iranian people in general want democracy. |
And they had it until the US removed their Parliamentary government and replaced it with a dictator. |
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mos6507
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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And they had it until the US removed their Parliamentary government and replaced it with a dictator. |
Enough is enough with using that incident as a free pass for every damn thing Iran does.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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| mos6507 wrote: | | 3rensho wrote: |
And they had it until the US removed their Parliamentary government and replaced it with a dictator. |
Enough is enough with using that incident as a free pass for every damn thing Iran does. |
Well it's nice there is a "universal agreement" the USA has been meddling/(to put it gently) in other nation's affairs. I will be honest and admit Iran is certainly one place many people would NOT want to go move to. The Iranian revolution has been a failure. There is no country anywhere on this planet that looks up to the government of Iran as a source of inspiration or something to aspire to and emulate.
but...
what has Iran done mos6507??? hmm I'd like to know!
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3rensho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Robert Baer on US-Iranian relations |
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| mos6507 wrote: | | 3rensho wrote: |
And they had it until the US removed their Parliamentary government and replaced it with a dictator. |
Enough is enough with using that incident as a free pass for every damn thing Iran does. |
Try reading the entirety of Peleg's post and then reading my response. His argument about Iranians wanting freedom merited pointing out the fact that it was the US who removed that freedom in the first place.
No one is arguing that Iran gets a free pass, but I'd wager plenty of people would like to know why the US decides who gets a "free pass" and who doesn't. |
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