USA - It's All About "The O"

heartandseoul · Tar Sands Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 31

I just read this story on the PO main page: Big Oil's Secret Out of Iraq's Closet

As a newbie to PO issues, I was surprised to see this "cat's out of the bag" story, as I have not seen a story like this in my local newspaper or local media. I watch the Today show, CNN, etc. I don't subscribe to the NY Times, but I read as much as I can, but maybe I'm missing out.

I have always felt deep down that this war is not about freedom or WMDs, etc., but I simply don't recall having read a US media story that so blatantly lays the whole Freedom War/WMD/ thing out there for what it is.

Meanwhile, my TV news continues to be filled with LEAD stories that include Christie Brinkley's divorce.

As a proud American, I feel like I'm waking up to the fact that I've been fed lies and it's left a bad taste. But now it feels like it's too late to spit back.

This Asia Times story really jolted me out of what, a stupor? I think so - and I'm wondering why I don't see this type of story on CNN or Today or GMA. Am I way off base here?

Muckingfess · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

When you watch CNN, ever watch Lou Dobbs? He is about the closest thing they have to a journalist.

As far as the other "news media" you mentioned, they are all controlled by big business and will not make waves.

As biased as FOX news is, I think they come the closest to being real, just take into account their conservative ownership.

I saw a quote somewhere that the reason the NYT subscriptions are down is that less people own birds and wrap fish. All the print media is now owned by just a few large companies.

We are being told what TPTB wants us to know. We have to find the truth for ourselves.

Do you think the media is doing a good/fair job on the election? The media is electing our next president.
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retiredguy · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

Pretty poorly kept secret.

Most of us on this board connected the dots a long time ago.

Don't look for the MSM to provide you with accurate information.

heartandseoul · Tar Sands Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 31

Muckinfess I don't believe the media is doing a good job with the elections. Anyway, increasingly I am looking at news stories with a new set of eyes. I do read Thomas Friedman and I am searching out other media outlets.
I feel I'm now "researching" the news rather than letting myself be spoon fed.

And retiredguy, like you said, I do realize many of you on this board HAVE connected the dots long ago. That is wonderful for you. I admire that. I wish I was one of you.

However, I only found this website a few weeks ago and now I'm playing catchup. Please don't fault me for that.

catbox · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

I just seem to have memories of protesters holding signs and shouting, "No Blood For Oil"! .....Boy did people on that side of the fence get sh*& for claiming that.

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Micki · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

Former Fed Reserve chairman Alan (GreenSpam) Greenspan: Iraq war was really for oil
Times Online

Australia's former defence minister in 07:
Defence Minister Brendan Nelson says securing the world's oil supply is one of the Federal Government's considerations as it decides how long to keep troops in Iraq.
ABC

prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi: Prosecute Bush for Murder
In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, the New York Times bestselling author and prosecutor lays out the legal case for prosecuting President Bush in a US courtroom after he leaves office.
theNation

Most people seem to have understood that the justifications for war was based on lies. Not incompetence, LIES.
They also acknowledge that oil most likely was the reason.
Yet there seems to be a complete disconnect when equating these lies to thousands upon thousands of deaths because of it.
It is very sad.
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heartandseoul · Tar Sands Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 31

Thanks Micki for the links. I think a key word in your post is "disconnect." I think equating all those deaths in Iraq to a quest for oil is maybe emotionally too much to bear for many Americans.

I had a conversation about this topic at a July 4 picnic. I ventured into PO and made a couple vague statements about Iraq and oil, and was verbally, well, lashed, admonished, whatever, by several couples in the group, including men and women.

I quickly shut up and found myself another beer and some pasta salad.

dukey · Fission Joined: Feb 20, 2005 Posts: 2063

well before the nightmare that is Iraq kicked off
Cheney and his goons literally planned to carve up iraq, into rougly 10 blocks and give it to the major oil companies

documents here
http://www.judicialwatch.org/iraqi-oil-maps.shtml

There really is no question, Americas genocide in the middle east is for oil.

Gobsmack · Coal Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 12

heroineworshipper · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

What's wrong with fighting for Oil, survival, & life as you know it?
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skeptik · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

zoidberg · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

y'know the UN pretty much definitively proved there werent any WMD's in Iraq even before the invasion. Google Scott Ritter.

yesplease · Fission Joined: Oct 03, 2006 Posts: 2482

Well, we killed the ZEV mandate, something that would've result in tens of millions of EVs, killed the PNGV program, all while the Big 3 whined about not being able to compete w/ foreign hybrids, giving away SUVs to small business owners for free on the public dime, as well as destabilizing the only producer in the ME whose output was limited for the previous decade. They only thing some people are worried about is making as much money as possible off of a peak. Razz

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mos6507 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: USA - It's All About "The O"

I'm really disappointed in this thread. I thought it was all about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE
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yesplease · Fission Joined: Oct 03, 2006 Posts: 2482