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GASMON
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 Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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Britons tried abroad in their absence will be automatically deported to serve their sentence under planned new European laws.
The refinements to the controversial European Arrest Warrant system means a British citizen can be arrested and sent to prison elsewhere in Europe even if they never knew they had been charged with a crime.
The new rules on defendants tried in their absence will apply to an extensive range of crimes, running from the most serious offences such as murder and rape to crimes such as 'racism and xenophobia' which are entirely unrecognised in British law. Daily Mail
Frightening
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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Going downhill fast. The most frightening aspect of this are the EU anti-free speech/ thought control laws.
In most parts of the EU, they will put a gun to your head and march you off to jail for saying the following out loud in public: "Fewer than six million Jews died in World War II."
So, according to what GASMON wrote, you could publish the results of your historical research in Britain and then be tried and exported to somewhere else in the EU for your thought crimes.
Nice.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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Gasmon
In accedeing to the increasingly federalist free market EU, the UK has agreed to relegate the sovereignty of it's judicial state apparatus along with it's executive and economic sovereignty to the new federalism. I haven't a clue what The Mail is bleating on about as the owners of the British press, overwhelmingly, are in favour of the extended market the loss of this sovereignty will bring them.
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Ainan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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Only 21 months till I can leave... Half of every other University student I speak too wants to emigrate too. Britain is going down the toilet.
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Drake
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Ainan wrote: | | Only 21 months till I can leave... Half of every other University student I speak too wants to emigrate too. Britain is going down the toilet. |
Not just Britain goes down the drain. Rest assured, many many people in the rest of europe are as pissed about the now obvious prospects of a EUSSR as you are. |
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Ainan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Drake wrote: | | Ainan wrote: | | Only 21 months till I can leave... Half of every other University student I speak too wants to emigrate too. Britain is going down the toilet. |
Not just Britain goes down the drain. Rest assured, many many people in the rest of europe are as pissed about the now obvious prospects of a EUSSR as you are. |
Tell me about it, I actually live in Germany right now and visit many other EU nations, its the same story. I'm leaving Europe, the whole of Europe for somewhere our overlords can't have complete control over.
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GASMON
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Ainan wrote: | | Drake wrote: | | Ainan wrote: | | Only 21 months till I can leave... Half of every other University student I speak too wants to emigrate too. Britain is going down the toilet. |
Not just Britain goes down the drain. Rest assured, many many people in the rest of europe are as pissed about the now obvious prospects of a EUSSR as you are. |
Tell me about it, I actually live in Germany right now and visit many other EU nations, its the same story. I'm leaving Europe, the whole of Europe for somewhere our overlords can't have complete control over. |
Just interested - Where will you go & why. Germany seems OK to me, visit the inlaws near Manheim. Nice area to live I would think. Every country seems to have the same / similar problems these days.
Where is your paradise on this small overcrowded planet ?
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Ainan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| GASMON wrote: | | Ainan wrote: | | Drake wrote: | | Ainan wrote: | | Only 21 months till I can leave... Half of every other University student I speak too wants to emigrate too. Britain is going down the toilet. |
Not just Britain goes down the drain. Rest assured, many many people in the rest of europe are as pissed about the now obvious prospects of a EUSSR as you are. |
Tell me about it, I actually live in Germany right now and visit many other EU nations, its the same story. I'm leaving Europe, the whole of Europe for somewhere our overlords can't have complete control over. |
Just interested - Where will you go & why. Germany seems OK to me, visit the inlaws near Manheim. Nice area to live I would think. Every country seems to have the same / similar problems these days.
Where is your paradise on this small overcrowded planet ?
Gasmon |
That would be telling 
But seriously, there is no such place as paradise, I'm considering NZ, Canada and a few other places. Who knows what will happen in the next few years. Germany is nice but like the rest of Europe, overpopulated.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| GASMON wrote: | | ...to crimes such as 'racism and xenophobia' which are entirely unrecognised in British law. |
How would they serve a warrant for something not recognized under British law? That's the whole reason draft dodgers from the US weren't deported from Canada during Vietnam: no draft, hence no law against dodging it. Desertion, however, was recognized and could subject someone to deportation.
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Ainan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Nickel wrote: | | GASMON wrote: | | ...to crimes such as 'racism and xenophobia' which are entirely unrecognised in British law. |
How would they serve a warrant for something not recognized under British law? That's the whole reason draft dodgers from the US weren't deported from Canada during Vietnam: no draft, hence no law against dodging it. Desertion, however, was recognized and could subject someone to deportation. |
I don't think you understand how the British Government work. They order us to roll over, if we don't we get the cane.
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Nickel
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Ainan wrote: | | I don't think you understand how the British Government work. They order us to roll over, if we don't we get the cane. |
You guys haven't even adopted the euro or the metric system yet, but I'm supposed to believe the Bobbies'll start nicking people for things that aren't even illegal in the UK on the say-so of someone in Brussels? Puhleeeease.
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Ainan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Britons could be convicted in absence |
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| Nickel wrote: | | Ainan wrote: | | I don't think you understand how the British Government work. They order us to roll over, if we don't we get the cane. |
You guys haven't even adopted the euro or the metric system yet, but I'm supposed to believe the Bobbies'll start nicking people for things that aren't even illegal in the UK on the say-so of someone in Brussels? Puhleeeease. |
You don't think we are turning into a police state? You think its nothing more than the ravings of alarmists? Wait and see. It's going to happen. Also, we have the metric system.
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