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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

IMHO, one of the more interesting and relevant threads, of late, is the Confessions of a Grocery Stocker.

Is there anyone else in the front lines of retail? I think interesting information could be gleaned from areas such as:

Car Mechanic
Plumber
Vending Sales
Services - Resteraunt, hotel, etc

To name but a few.


Before you post, please read the above thread to get an idea of what may be relevant information that will draw interest. Also, let's keep the threads (if they start) together. Personally, if there are other grocery stockers, I would love to see you posting on that thread so we can get a country wide view of the situation.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sort of on these lines, or second-hand information if you will. I own a BMW and am a member of an internet forum. It circulated this weekend that (BMW) mechanics are seeing less cars these days, basically only for necessary repairs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I work part-time as a receptionist in an upscale hair salon. I feel that women will continue spending money on their hair until things get really bad. I haven't seen the weekly salon income reduced a whole lot - yet.
The clients we see are what I'd call upper middle-class and well-off retirees. I have seen them schedule fewer colors and hilights and maintain their hair cut schedule.
Our hair cuts are about $40 and a hilight/color process is upwards of $110.00.
We charge $20 for a child's cut and I have not seen a drop off in those clients yet, which really surprises me, but people say we're very close and they don't want to drive across town for a cheaper kids cut due to gas cost.

I do see people purchasing much fewer of the "upscale" hair care products. Our sales of those have dropped dramatically.

We have had more elderly clients who usually come in for their weekly shampoo set cancel them altogether or make them every other week. Many of them are on a fixed income.
We're raising our prices in September and the product prices have already increased a lot so I'm thinking I'll see more of a reduction in scheduling come fall.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

heartandseoul wrote:
I work part-time as a receptionist in an upscale hair salon. I feel that women will continue spending money on their hair until things get really bad. I haven't seen the weekly salon income reduced a whole lot - yet.
The clients we see are what I'd call upper middle-class and well-off retirees. I have seen them schedule fewer colors and hilights and maintain their hair cut schedule.
Our hair cuts are about $40 and a hilight/color process is upwards of $110.00.....


WTF They bitch about food prices and then go drop $110 on hair color!!

Do they realize how much food that is?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

People prioritize based on their preferences. You might think buying steaks instead of chicken is more important than the color of your hair but there are people who disagree.

There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.

I work for a legislative tracking service and budget cuts in state government have lead to a few cancellations from some of the state agencies but the lobbyists are sticking around for the long haul.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:

There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.


If they only knew that looking good comes with eating well... Rolling Eyes

My how TV has warped our countries perception of real life....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I wouldn't say I'm at the front lines of anything, but I run a rare book and art business in an affluent area about 2 hours east of NYC. Here are my impressions. Business is as strong as ever, if not stronger. My wealthy clients have not stopped buying, and my everyday customers are still doing their part. Furthermore, retail shops in my area are thriving and business is still strong. Home prices have decreased (but not tanked) and I get the sense that contractors may be hurting a bit, but you must remember that for the last 10 years there has been an unmitigated boom. So any slowdown must be seen in the light that people have done very well for a long time. My house cost about $450,000 in 2002. It was appraised at almost twice that in 2007. I have no doubt that I'd have a hard time selling for the highest price, but I could sell my house tomorrow for $650,000.

People are of course talking about the economic slowdown, but at least in this area there has been little actual fallout, yet.

By the way, I started reading this site about 6 weeks ago, and I have learned a tremendous amount about PO and how it relates to the economy and the world. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I live in Australia and work in liquor retail. Definitely a dropoff in sales in my store in the last 6 months. Hasn't deterred me however, i'm drinking more than ever.

People are much more price conscious, they come in when their favourite booze is on sale for the week and buy in bulk. I'm actually looking to build up a 6 month supply of beer (when the zombie hordes come knocking I plan to be drunk), and also hard liquor which has an unlimited shelf life, could be worth a fortune if supply gets disrupted.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

vilemerchant wrote:
I live in Australia and work in liquor retail. Definitely a dropoff in sales in my store in the last 6 months. Hasn't deterred me however, i'm drinking more than ever.

People are much more price conscious, they come in when their favourite booze is on sale for the week and buy in bulk. I'm actually looking to build up a 6 month supply of beer (when the zombie hordes come knocking I plan to be drunk), and also hard liquor which has an unlimited shelf life, could be worth a fortune if supply gets disrupted.


Good plan! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

PonyBoy78 wrote:
I'm not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.



So is there any idea to what kind of problems have dropped off? For instance, broken bones or athsma attacks?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

harpbook wrote:
I wouldn't say I'm at the front lines of anything, but I run a rare book and art business in an affluent area about 2 hours east of NYC. Here are my impressions. Business is as strong as ever, if not stronger. My wealthy clients have not stopped buying, and my everyday customers are still doing their part. Furthermore, retail shops in my area are thriving and business is still strong. Home prices have decreased (but not tanked) and I get the sense that contractors may be hurting a bit, but you must remember that for the last 10 years there has been an unmitigated boom. So any slowdown must be seen in the light that people have done very well for a long time. My house cost about $450,000 in 2002. It was appraised at almost twice that in 2007. I have no doubt that I'd have a hard time selling for the highest price, but I could sell my house tomorrow for $650,000.

People are of course talking about the economic slowdown, but at least in this area there has been little actual fallout, yet.

By the way, I started reading this site about 6 weeks ago, and I have learned a tremendous amount about PO and how it relates to the economy and the world. Thanks.


Well, I would expect an affluent area to feel the affects last, however, being a book dealer may be a plus. I've seen a tremendous increase of customers at libraries and book stores.

Books are something that can not be replaced. Especially in a powerdown society.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jlw61 wrote:
PonyBoy78 wrote:
I'm not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.



So is there any idea to what kind of problems have dropped off? For instance, broken bones or athsma attacks?


I'm trying to figure that out; it's difficult to generalize. On Sunday nights (usually our busiest night of the week, believe it or not), we used to get lots of "my head/tummy aches - can I have a note to miss work tomorrow?" But not as much anymore.

We still get plenty of chest pain cases and broken bones - cases that are plainly emergent - but something's leading to this drop in numbers. I wonder sometimes if people are ignoring less chest pains or abdominal pains, hoping that it'll "just go away" so that they don't have to face an ER bill. Just my own theory though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

My future daughter in law works at a Mini Cooper dealer. She says business is booming at the dealership. As a matter of fact, they are in the proccess of opening another dealership in the state.

I guess Minni's are the way the rich downsize.

Cliff (Start a rEVOLution, grow a garden)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

burtonridr wrote:
Tyler_JC wrote:

There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.


If they only knew that looking good comes with eating well... Rolling Eyes

My how TV has warped our countries perception of real life....


Well in all fairness, something that makes you "feel good" is priceless in keeping up your spirits. For instance, if I've been camping for a week, a hot shower is like heaven on a halfshell. For my wife, a shower and a touch of makeup makes her feel "human" in the morning.

In my experience, women like a little bit of pampering because so many have to pamper their significant others all week.
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