Don't plan on stocking up at Mountain House

Couve · Coal Joined: May 30, 2008 Posts: 10

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Dear Valued Customers: We regret to inform you Oregon Freeze Dry cannot satisfy all Mountain House #10 can orders and we have removed #10 cans from our website temporarily. The reason for this is sales of #10 cans have continued to increase. OFD is allocating as much production capacity as possible to this market segment, but we must maintain capacity for our other market segments as well.

Currently we are able to meet demand for Mountain House pouches and most of these products are still available for purchase on our website. Some of our dealers still have Mountain House #10 Cans available and you will need to locate them and contact them directly....Search Online Dealers

We want to clarify inaccurate information we’ve seen on the Internet. This situation is not due to sales to the government domestically or in Iraq. We do sell products to this market, but we also sell other market segments, including Ingredients and Private Label markets. The reason for this decision is solely due to an unprecedented sales spike in #10 cans sales.

We expect this situation to be necessary for several months although this isn’t a guarantee. We will update this information as soon as we know more. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your patience. We sincerely hope you will continue to be Mountain House customers in the future.
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OK... so how do you run out of EVERYTHING in #10 cans? "Sorry..we had a huge run on canned Cottage Cheese...."
Someone had to come in and said "We'll take everything you can produce this year"

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971

Good point.

Maybe the issue is the cans and not the food?

Maybe they're just out of cans at the cannery?
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I bought a Country Living Grain mill and 4 buckets of wheat. 4 months later and still no wheat. Blah.

Arsenal

Fiddlerdave · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 18, 2007 Posts: 292

What part of "unprecedented sales" is hard to understand? Smile

The rush is on, and they've got someone who will pay more that wants all the #10 cans they can get.

I'd guess the buggies of the well-to-do are leaving town.

TreeFarmer · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 347

The real profit might be in the smaller containers and pouches. Therefore, why sell #10 cans when you can use that product to fill many more smaller containers.

TF

skyemoor

I just received my rather large order from Walton feed that I placed in March. People are catching on and stocking up.
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patience · Expert Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1664

My guess is that they are running the canning line at capacity. You have to seal the cans after you fill them, and the machines that do that only run so fast. Or, could be the freeze dryer.

We have managed to avoid freeze dried foods, since we can manage large bulk grain storage, frozen foods (powered by solar), and lots of home canned goods, supplemented by purchased pasta products, dry beans, etc..

Arsenal, depending on where you are, you could possibly go to a feed mill in a livestock growing area and buy wheat in bags. Winnow it with a box window fan on the garage floor, and it will be as clean as what you can buy re-cleaned.
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Ah, yes. That's the trick, isn't it? To buy preps while they are still affordable AND before everybody else decides they want some, too.
Perhaps another part of the problem is lack of raw supplies to make those cans (or, the cost of said raw supplies).
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Pardon my ignorance. Are #10 cans just a large size of canned food or are they empty cans/jars for doing home preserving? I know a place that sells giant cans of food, but I'm not telling where it is!

-IanC

skyemoor

ReverseEngineer · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1431

Pouches of Mountain House Freeze Dried Food were my first purchases when I got into Stocking Up. I like them because they are light in weight and highly portable, and have a very long shelf life. However, they are expensive relative to the actual calorie content for each bag. I stopped my collection of this type of food product after I got about a month's worth.

A similar bagged product are the Bear Creek dried soup mixes. Similar calorie count, a bit heavier in weight but also pretty portable. Found in the regular Soup Aisle of your grocery, they come in about half the price of the Mountain House products in the Camping Dept for a similar calorie count. I have another 2 months or so of this type of product, other companies make similar stuff, there are "instant" Broccoli-Cheese-Rice products from Lipton and Uncle Ben as well that are OK on calorie content and cheaper in price than the camping stuff.

However, bang-for-your ever decreasing in value dollar, those 20 lb bags of Rice are great, along with 2LB bags of straight spaghetti. Don't buy the shells or curly noodles, they take up too much volume. I take this stuff out of the bags and package it up in smaller weekly bundles and Vacuum Seal it with my Rival Seal-a-Meal. On the Carbohydrate end here, I have a good 300,000 calories collected up, figuring a 1000 calorie content per day carb end of my diet, that is 200 days worth of that type of nutrition. On the Fats end, the best value is in the Jumbo size Peanut Butter and Jumbo size Vegetable Oil bottles. WHOPPING large Calorie content in one 2 quart bottle of Olive Oil there is a whopping 16,000 calories, I have plenty of these bottles, along with numerous jars of jumbo Peanut Butter. I wouldn't want to eat more than about 500 more calories a day in fats though, though on real cold days its great energy.

On the Animal Protein end, I'm about 50-50 on meats and fish. Vacuum Sealed and frozen fresh as Steaks, this stuff lasts about 2-3 years. However, I only have about 1/3 of it stored that way. Most of the rest of it is precooked, salted, vacuum sealed and frozen Sausage, Bratwurst, Kielbasa, Chorizo, Salami and Smoked Fish. Long as my freezers keep operating, this stuff keeps indefinitely, even if the freezer fails it lasts a good year to two.

Multi-Vitamin Tablets I have a good 5 year supply, and that is if I popped one every day. You really don't need one a day as long as your overall diet is still OK, really you only need about one a week just to cover any vitamins your diet might be deficient in.

As I mentioned though, this stuff is not all for me if/when it goes South in a hurry. I intend to share it with my friends, my Tribe. Although most of them aren't Peak Oilers and Survivalists, quite a few are Hunters and Fishermen like me. A good friend of mine has already pulled down over 300 pounds of fish this summer with her family. She smokes and freezes it also. All the Meat hubby shoots also gets quartered up and frozen or ground into sausage. They get plenty for a year for themselves and give the rest away to friends as gifts.

I am of the belief that the individual who tries to survive Peak Oil is lost almost no matter where he/she is, unless its on an otherwise deserted island somewhere that has enough food resource for said person to harvest. Those who do not have food, have not prepared in any way FAR outnumber those who have. At first they will just knock on your door begging for food, but when you don't give it away to them, they will get less pleasant. If its only 5 or 10 of them and you got 3 or 4 people in your house with rifles, shotguns and pistols you might be able to defend yourself, but when its 50 or 100 of them or the local National Guard confiscating Horded Food for themselves or redistribution, you are gonna lose it at best, probably ending up dead trying NOT to lose it.

If/When it devolves to that point, your only chance is if you have cooperated with others and formed your own defense team to PROTECT yourselves. Who do you want in such a defense team? You guessed it, current Cops and Soldiers. They have access to MANY guns, of the Automatic kind. Minimum size of a Survival Tribe you need to put together QUICKLY to have some chance would be around 100 families in my estimation, and well armed. A better number would be closer to 1000. If you live in a close-knit community, such a number can be organized up quickly when Peak Oil really hits the fan. You can't do it NOW, most of them refuse to believe its coming down the pipe. However, when the supermarket shelves go bare, they will BELIEVE you. If you have some FOOD, if you have a PLAN, they will be ready to follow. You organize your Protection and your Hunting Parties, and you Hunker Down. You ride the perimeter on Horseback and on Bicycle. Nobody gets inside your perimeter, you shoot to kill.

Alone you are nothing, you are destined for Extinction. Its only through cooperation with others you have any real chance at all, but you must be READY for it, and you must have a PLAN and a core group of friends to make it work. Packing up your food supplies is only the BEGINNING. The rest of the Plan for Survival takes much more than that.

ReverseEngineer

Tucker · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 29, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: Orygun

The quoted message is actually the "older" news. The latest news is that #10 cans will not be available until 2010 AT THE EARLIEST. This was posted on Millennium Ark yesterday.

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ReverseEngineer · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1431

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