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roccman Peak Oil Prophet

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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| Quote: | | This is one of the little extras coming soon on the DVD title "Establishing a Food Forest" with Permaculture teacher Geoff Lawton. Whilst Geoff was in Vietnam he discovered a 300 year old Food Forest built on 2 acres of land and still functioning well in the same family 28 generations later. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ZgzwoQ-ao _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
We are going back to roccland - me |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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Good find Rocc!
See, that is vastly more interesting then Mayan calendars, blowing up the Van Allen belts or planet X!  _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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smallpoxgirl Moderator


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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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Very cool vid Rocc. _________________ "So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
I can hear the flowers a-growin in the rubble of the towers.
I hear leaders quit their lying
I hear babies quit their crying.
I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all." - OCMS |
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MrBean Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Sep 26, 2004 Posts: 1229
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| Thanks for sharing this. Wonderfull, small piece of paradise on Earth. Garden Planet is possible, West has little to teach if anything and lot to learn. |
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americandream Fission

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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | Very cool vid Rocc. |
Had no idea videos were cool. Educational, informative, eye-opening...yes, but cool. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate! |
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Hagakure_Leofman Heavy Crude


Joined: Jan 02, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: out dispatching ronan...
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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I'm lucky enough to be doing the permaculture certificate course with bill mollison and geoff lawton in september this year. Can't wait!  |
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MrBean Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Sep 26, 2004 Posts: 1229
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| Hagakure_Leofman wrote: | I'm lucky enough to be doing the permaculture certificate course with bill mollison and geoff lawton in september this year. Can't wait!  |
Happy for you. Keep posting. |
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Hagakure_Leofman Heavy Crude


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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| MrBean wrote: | | Happy for you. Keep posting. |
Will do. It's a 72 hour course. I'll keep a journal and post on PO.com.  |
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alokin Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 24, 2007 Posts: 872
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| Great video! It's just how we should do things, especially in our dry continent. |
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bobaloo Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| Folks have apparently recently figured out that the great eastern forest of North America was anything but, it was actually a well managed nut plantation developed over 1000's of years by the local residents. Hence the massive chestnut, hickory, oak forests of the eastern US. |
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MrBean Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| bobaloo wrote: | | Folks have apparently recently figured out that the great eastern forest of North America was anything but, it was actually a well managed nut plantation developed over 1000's of years by the local residents. Hence the massive chestnut, hickory, oak forests of the eastern US. |
Wow! Agroforestry is indeed nothing new. |
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Specop_007 Expert

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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| bobaloo wrote: | | Folks have apparently recently figured out that the great eastern forest of North America was anything but, it was actually a well managed nut plantation developed over 1000's of years by the local residents. Hence the massive chestnut, hickory, oak forests of the eastern US. |
Folks who? Any documentation on that? _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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smallpoxgirl Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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| bobaloo wrote: | | Folks have apparently recently figured out that the great eastern forest of North America was anything but, it was actually a well managed nut plantation developed over 1000's of years by the local residents. Hence the massive chestnut, hickory, oak forests of the eastern US. |
Apparently the practice of letting pigs forage in the forest was very common in the colonial and frontier days. The pigs would find and eat the chestnuts, acorn, hickory nuts etc. I've heard that it significantly limited the reproduction of those trees and changed the makeup of the forests rather dramatically.
I think it's hard for even those of us that grew up in Eastern woodlands to really imagine what those forests would have been like. Almost all of the "forest" in the eastern US is scrubby stuff less than 100 years old. There are some very small patches of old growth, but not much. _________________ "So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
I can hear the flowers a-growin in the rubble of the towers.
I hear leaders quit their lying
I hear babies quit their crying.
I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all." - OCMS |
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flashtoonz Coal


Joined: Jun 24, 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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For those folks that are interested, creating a self-sustaining Food Forest near your home, it isnt as hard as you may think. Geoff Lawton also found and documented a 2,000 year old Food Forest system in Morocco that will feature in our new DVD on how to do-it-yourself with minimum effort. We posted that 300 Year old Food Forest link on You Tube and hope to put more stuff up soon.
<link removed per COC. Kathy> |
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katkinkate Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: Re: 300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam |
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I've heard that much of the Amazon rainforest was 'managed' by the nomadic tribes for food production as well. They knew where and when various foods were due to grow/ripen and their wanderings were on a set schedule and they managed the forest as they went. _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka |
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