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la2al2tex
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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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link As a chemist, I wondered when stuff like this might happen...
| Quote: | I usually get my ACN from VWR. They just sent me a letter today that said and I quote:
'Due to a world-wide shortage of Acetonitrile, our leading suppliers have declared Force Majeure and ongoing supply is severely limited. Product is being allocated to VWR from our chemical suppliers, and as a result we will be allocating to our customers based upon a factor of their past usage. We intend to support our loyal customers with allocated quantities while product supply lasts; therefore, will regrettably be unable to fulfill orders from customers whom have not ordered Acetonitrile recently from us until the situation changes.'
I called up Fisher and they told me that they are also affected by the ACN shortage, but they are not allocating their supply.
I'm surprised that no one has heard of this. |
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OilFinder2
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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We're doomed!! 
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DoomWarrior
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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Happily, I've been stockpiling acetonitrile for the last few years.
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smallpoxgirl
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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Does this by any chance mean that nitrile gloves are about to shoot up in price? (I hope.)
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Delphis
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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Damn,
What else can I use to remove my black nailpolish and rhinestone baphomet nail embellishments?
Shoot!
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la2al2tex
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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| Delphis wrote: | Damn,
What else can I use to remove my black nailpolish and rhinestone baphomet nail embellishments?
Shoot! |
I hope you've been using acetone for that, not acetonitrile. |
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PeakOiler
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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We use about 100 gallons of acetonitrile per year in our lab as one of the chief eluents for the HPLC. (We analyze air samples for aldehydes and ketones using the DNPH capture and extraction method. See EPA TO-11A method
The problem is that we can't have over 50 gallons of any one solvent on site at any one time due to fire regs, so we can't stock up.
EPA may not get carbonyl data from us if ACN shortages occur.
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pinewillow
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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Acetonitrile is the cheapest way to make phelpropanolamine or a precursor to methamphetameen.
probably being sent to afganistan where it is converted to more expensive material. |
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pup55
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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Just FYI.....
acrylonitrile is the material for which acetonitrile is the by-product.
It is co-polymerized with butadiene to make "nitrile elastomer". This useful material is suited for applications which require exposure to oil (i.e. in oilfield ) there are a few alternatives, but they are costly.
Also, this material is popular when combined with PVC and blowing agents to make the foam insulating materials that we all love for our hot water pipes (and koozies).
Just saying....
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| Quote: | The oil field presents a most demanding and diverse group of applications for elastomers. Elastomeric materials in oil field service play major roles in protecting workers, equipment, and the environment as well as enhancing drilling and zone isolation to maximize well production. From blow-out preventers (BOP) designed to seal off the well from potentially destructive pressures to down-hole packers used to isolate zones for further evaluation
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smallpoxgirl
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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I rant a lot about the evils of nitrile. I hate it because latex allergy is one of those really minor and generally insignificant problems that everyone loves to have so they can be "sick". All the big healthcare organizations have responded by banning latex. We used to use gloves that were really nice and stretchy, were made from sustainably grown tree sap, and were 100% biodegradable. Now we get gloves that cost 5 times as much, aren't very stretchy, are a petroleum product, and don't biodegrade. The people mandating it, somehow see it as being an improvement. Personally I'd be quite happy if nitrile gloves went up to $30 a pair.
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wisconsin_cur
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Peak Acetonitrile? |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | I rant a lot about the evils of nitrile. I hate it because latex allergy is one of those really minor and generally insignificant problems that everyone loves to have so they can be "sick". All the big healthcare organizations have responded by banning latex. We used to use gloves that were really nice and stretchy, were made from sustainably grown tree sap, and were 100% biodegradable. Now we get gloves that cost 5 times as much, aren't very stretchy, are a petroleum product, and don't biodegrade. The people mandating it, somehow see it as being an improvement. Personally I'd be quite happy if nitrile gloves went up to $30 a pair. |
+1
They like it because the "answer" to the "problem" was easy and did not step on anyone toes. So they could leave the meeting thinking was good responsive people they are without needed to do anything difficult to make the system substantively better.
I'll stop before I start really rolling.
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