USGS figures

pstarr · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: USGS figures

Can someone point me to a refutation of USGS's rosy assessment that peak won't occur for 20 years. I would much appreciate it. Smile

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EddieB · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: USGS figures

Deffeyes first book "Hubbert's Peak" is pretty good for understanding the whole issue. He explains why USGS numbers are overly optimistic. But for a shorter analysis just read a paper or two by Campell et al.

peaknik · Tar Sands Joined: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 20

Try this, it's a report from a german renewable energy company. They were in ASPO Berlin, and they were promoting everything hidrogen, they even included a hidrogen powered lawnmover! In spite of that, their analysis is sound: The Countdown for the Peak of Oil Production has Begun – but what are the Views of the Most Important International Energy Agencies

There you'll find detailed critiques to the figures that USGS, EIA and IEA use.

pstarr · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject:

thank you all. I'll give them a look-see Very Happy

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RickTaylor · Tar Sands Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 35

In a way, it doesn't make any difference whether peak oil is now or 20 years from now. That is, it doesn't change what we ought to be doing now. If by some miracle we are so lucky as to have another 20 years before peak, we should thank the gods for this extra time to transition and not waste it like we have the last 30 years.

--Rick Taylor

savethehumans · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 1541

USGS assessments:

Laughing

killJOY · Fission Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 2509 Location: ^NNE^

Find "The countdown for the peak in oil production has begun--but what are the views of the most important energy agencies," by Zittel & Schindler of L-B-systemtechnik. Go to page 7 of the pdf and begin reading. This is the best critique of USGS phantasies I have seen. USGS: the United States' Greatest Swindler.

I don't have a link for you, only a copy of the pdf.
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CarnbY · Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:39 am Post subject:

Here's the article killJOY mentioned. You can also download the .pdf version from the bottom of the page.

killJOY · Fission Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 2509 Location: ^NNE^

peaknik has also posted it above. Forgive my laziness at not fully reading the thread.
(by the way peaknik you stole my idea for the best peaker name ever!)
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