soooo....what about canada?

Guest · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: soooo....what about canada?

there's been a lot of talk about how various european nations, not to mention the US, would weather the end of cheap oil, but not much on canada. i'm not interested in doomsday scenarios; obviously, if we're all dead, we're all dead. in the event of economic trouble, any bets on which way canada would go?

Cool Hand Linc · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:33 pm Post subject: My thoughts

Canada is in a difficult situation much the same as the US and other petroleum importing countries. I am not sure but I think Canada is exporting oils and coal currently. This positions Canada in a good place.

Costs of goods are already slightly higher than more southern climate’s. As the cost of living goes up, the cost of living in a colder climate should go up.

I am not sure that anybody can give answers for the future. Do you live in Canada? If so, research the information. Living in Canada would give you better insight as to what the future may hold. You most likely would have a better understanding of the infrastructure required to live at current economic levels in more northern climates. I would like to hear what you think. The insight you can give to this group could be very positive!

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notacornucopian · Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:

Forgive me if this post appears twice:

www.eub.gov.ab.ca/bbs/products/STs/st98-2004.pdf

This is a link to the Alberta Utilities and Reserves Board most recent forecast

Kurobei · Guest

I'd fight for Canada if the U.S. launched a pre-emptive strike on false pretenses, with an ulterior motive for oil. And that's saying alot since I can't stand cold weather.

Barbara · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:44 am Post subject:

I know Canada and USA have a treaty which forces Canada to sell oil to USA. If Peak will hit soon, Canadians may try to stop selling their oil to keep it for themselves.
What will USA do?
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Leanan · News Editor Joined: May 20, 2004 Posts: 4567

Not oil, natural gas. NAFTA requires Canada to sell 65% of their natural gas production to the U.S. - at bargain basement prices. In perpetuity, no less.

Canada may well break that agreement. They've already had some political heat over it, when natural gas prices went through the roof last year, and Americans were buying Canadian natural gas for cheaper than Canadians were getting it.

Overall, I think Canada will be in the same boat as the U.S., come crunch time. Our economies are too entwined.

JayHMorrison · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject:

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JayHMorrison · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Canada

Ender · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject:

JayHMorrison · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject:

Cool Hand Linc · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject: Canada and the US

Both countries are so entwined. They will both be affected in the same way. Mexico too. North America will be hit in much the same way. My thoughts

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Ender · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:

gg3 · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:

I have specific and first-hand knowledge of wind resources off the West Coast of Canada that are approximately equivalent to six large nuclear reactors. There will have to be some transmission line construction, but that's true of any significant generating project that's not right next door to its demand.

Then there's the Candu reactor design, which has proven itself quite well over the years. In fact I don't see why we can't make a deal to import those.

As far as gas is concerned, if there are specific contracts with US companies, fine, and if the Canadians want to challenge 'em, that's what courts are for. However I see no reason to embody that stuff in an international treaty, any more than I expect my city government to pass an ordinance requiring local businesses to buy their PBX equipment from me.

What I also find interesting is the contrast between *that* type & degree of government intervention, and the efforts by FDA to prohibit Americans buying medications from Canada, which trade apparently has quite a number of eager and willing participants on both sides of the border.

Barbara · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:25 am Post subject:

Oh, yes, it's capitalism and market laws...
when you make a contract about the prices of a resource FAKING the informations about that resource.
I think that if Canadians were informed (and the rest of us, of course) that the real oil reserves are faked, then the price of that gas would be very different.

In this case, that contract should be invalidated.
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