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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Pakistan should be carefully watched because it could prove to be a significant flashpoint in the coming year," US think tank Strategic Forecasting said.

"As the global headquarters for the al-Qa'ida leadership, Pakistan has long been a significant stronghold on the ideological battlefield. If the trend towards radicalisation continues, the country could become the new centre of gravity for the jihadi movement on the physical battlefield."

The Stratfor assessment coincided with reports from Washington suggesting US Special Forces would expand their presence in Pakistan in the new year. "The first US (Special Forces) personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan early in the new year", according to the reports.

Investing for the Long Haul

The US reports coincided with the disclosure of an ambitious 15-year "anti-terror investment plan" for Pakistan that has been high on the agenda of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22977630-2703,00.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83541.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83795.html
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cid_Yama wrote:
"Pakistan should be carefully watched because it could prove to be a significant flashpoint in the coming year," US think tank Strategic Forecasting said.

"As the global headquarters for the al-Qa'ida leadership, Pakistan has long been a significant stronghold on the ideological battlefield. If the trend towards radicalisation continues, the country could become the new centre of gravity for the jihadi movement on the physical battlefield."

The Stratfor assessment coincided with reports from Washington suggesting US Special Forces would expand their presence in Pakistan in the new year. "The first US (Special Forces) personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan early in the new year", according to the reports.

Investing for the Long Haul

The US reports coincided with the disclosure of an ambitious 15-year "anti-terror investment plan" for Pakistan that has been high on the agenda of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22977630-2703,00.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83541.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83795.html


The US should send troops in now! They have terrorists and nukes.

Off you go should be all over in two weeks.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

They should have found a way to follow Osama into Pakistan from the start, when they had the moral upper-hand. They blew it so bad with Iraq that now nobody wants Bush to use the military anywhere--even when it could potentially result in some important 911 closure.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

US politicians asked to leave Pakistan following assasination

Two US lawmakers scheduled to meet with former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto were advised to leave the country after Bhutto's assassination.

Senator Arlen Specter, a Republican, said in a telephone interview from his Islamabad hotel room that he and Rep Patrick Kennedy, a Democrat, were to meet later on Thursday night with Bhutto.

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A curious thing I noticed. Reports immediately following the assasination mentioned both Arlen Specter and Patrick Kennedy. Later reports no longer mentioned Specter, but only Kennedy. Why would that be?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mos6507 wrote:
They should have found a way to follow Osama into Pakistan from the start, when they had the moral upper-hand. They blew it so bad with Iraq that now nobody wants Bush to use the military anywhere--even when it could potentially result in some important 911 closure.


Last I checked OBL is not wanted for any crimes he may have committed on 9.11.2001.

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Note to mods: I do not intend to pursue 911 discussion on this thread as to avoid threadjacking, but wanted to calibrate this claim regarding OBL and 911 with fact.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

too late you let the cat out of the bag...I just checked your link and your right he isn't wanted for the 911 events
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Concerned wrote:

The US should send troops in now! They have terrorists and nukes.

Off you go should be all over in two weeks.

I think, there is not much what US can do to address current Pakistani mess.
If Musharaf is removed as a result of current uprisings few nukes may well end up in hands of Osama & Co.

I don't think that invasion is really an option and some use of special forces in guerrilla character will prove to be of very limited value if one want to secure those nukes.
Perhaps collapsing Musharaf's regime will manage to remove these nukes to China or may be to NK.
I think, here is our best hope (assuming collapse of Musharaf's authority).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sure would've been nice to have those 160,000 troops in afghanistan at the beginning.Maybe we could have cut off their escape into pakistan.Now we're gonna have to fight them there.This is what happens when evangelicals choose presidents.Religious fundamentalists fighting religious fundamentalists,with oil as a subplot.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bonehead wrote:
This is what happens when evangelicals choose presidents.Religious fundamentalists fighting religious fundamentalists,with oil as a subplot.


And the bombs continued falling
And both sides continued calling
For God's vengeance on the Infidel
But God continued stalling.

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About the numbers that are dying
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

U.S. strikes within Pakistan — without notice
In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center. …
Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be put off or turned down, this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval. …

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Concerned wrote:

Off you go should be all over in two weeks.


It's won't be over in 2 years, probably not even in 2 decades.
It can be predicted on the day US decided to occupy Iraq directly, rather than exercise control through a puppet.
What we see today and will see in the future are just result of that policy change, and what caused it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pakistan's covert/terrorist activities are facilatated, maintained, and controlled by ISI which in turn is controlled/funded by the US. The ranks of ISI are US educated Pashtun officers and they were teh ones that created the Taliban and ushered in Al Qaida to enhance the diminishing Pashtun political dominance in Afghanistan. Whichever way the govt of Pakistan goes it'll be irrelevant to the terrorist related affairs as it would change absolutely nothing. ISI is its own govt and a govt to govt of Pakistan.
US has managed to stop Pakistan from selling further nuclear related know how to Iran. If they were serious about UBL or Taliban, I am sure they would have long stopped them through ISI. But somehow they are not.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is the real story behind the story.

US launches military strike independently on another country's sovereign territory

In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center.

Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be turned down, this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval.

It is an approach that some U.S. officials say could be used more frequently this year.

What would happen if other countries decided to use this as a precedent? WWIII maybe?
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