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Cid_Yama Light Sweet Crude


Joined: May 27, 2007 Posts: 1704 Location: The Post Peak Oil Historian
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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"Pakistan should be carefully watched because it could prove to be a significant flashpoint in the coming year," US think tank Strategic Forecasting said.
"As the global headquarters for the al-Qa'ida leadership, Pakistan has long been a significant stronghold on the ideological battlefield. If the trend towards radicalisation continues, the country could become the new centre of gravity for the jihadi movement on the physical battlefield."
The Stratfor assessment coincided with reports from Washington suggesting US Special Forces would expand their presence in Pakistan in the new year. "The first US (Special Forces) personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan early in the new year", according to the reports.
Investing for the Long Haul
The US reports coincided with the disclosure of an ambitious 15-year "anti-terror investment plan" for Pakistan that has been high on the agenda of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22977630-2703,00.html
http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83541.html
http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83795.html _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
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Concerned Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| Cid_Yama wrote: | "Pakistan should be carefully watched because it could prove to be a significant flashpoint in the coming year," US think tank Strategic Forecasting said.
"As the global headquarters for the al-Qa'ida leadership, Pakistan has long been a significant stronghold on the ideological battlefield. If the trend towards radicalisation continues, the country could become the new centre of gravity for the jihadi movement on the physical battlefield."
The Stratfor assessment coincided with reports from Washington suggesting US Special Forces would expand their presence in Pakistan in the new year. "The first US (Special Forces) personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan early in the new year", according to the reports.
Investing for the Long Haul
The US reports coincided with the disclosure of an ambitious 15-year "anti-terror investment plan" for Pakistan that has been high on the agenda of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22977630-2703,00.html
http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83541.html
http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/83795.html |
The US should send troops in now! They have terrorists and nukes.
Off you go should be all over in two weeks. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
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mos6507 Fusion


Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 4376 Location: Boston Suburbs
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| They should have found a way to follow Osama into Pakistan from the start, when they had the moral upper-hand. They blew it so bad with Iraq that now nobody wants Bush to use the military anywhere--even when it could potentially result in some important 911 closure. |
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Cid_Yama Light Sweet Crude


Joined: May 27, 2007 Posts: 1704 Location: The Post Peak Oil Historian
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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US politicians asked to leave Pakistan following assasination
Two US lawmakers scheduled to meet with former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto were advised to leave the country after Bhutto's assassination.
Senator Arlen Specter, a Republican, said in a telephone interview from his Islamabad hotel room that he and Rep Patrick Kennedy, a Democrat, were to meet later on Thursday night with Bhutto.
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A curious thing I noticed. Reports immediately following the assasination mentioned both Arlen Specter and Patrick Kennedy. Later reports no longer mentioned Specter, but only Kennedy. Why would that be? _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
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roccman Peak Oil Prophet

Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 4352 Location: The Great Sonoran Desert
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| mos6507 wrote: | | They should have found a way to follow Osama into Pakistan from the start, when they had the moral upper-hand. They blew it so bad with Iraq that now nobody wants Bush to use the military anywhere--even when it could potentially result in some important 911 closure. |
Last I checked OBL is not wanted for any crimes he may have committed on 9.11.2001.
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Note to mods: I do not intend to pursue 911 discussion on this thread as to avoid threadjacking, but wanted to calibrate this claim regarding OBL and 911 with fact. _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
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Troyboy1208 Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 26, 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Orlando FL
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| too late you let the cat out of the bag...I just checked your link and your right he isn't wanted for the 911 events |
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EnergyUnlimited Fusion


Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 3299
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| Concerned wrote: |
The US should send troops in now! They have terrorists and nukes.
Off you go should be all over in two weeks. |
I think, there is not much what US can do to address current Pakistani mess.
If Musharaf is removed as a result of current uprisings few nukes may well end up in hands of Osama & Co.
I don't think that invasion is really an option and some use of special forces in guerrilla character will prove to be of very limited value if one want to secure those nukes.
Perhaps collapsing Musharaf's regime will manage to remove these nukes to China or may be to NK.
I think, here is our best hope (assuming collapse of Musharaf's authority). |
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bonehead Heavy Crude


Joined: Oct 15, 2007 Posts: 199 Location: Northeast U.S.Heating oil heaven.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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Sure would've been nice to have those 160,000 troops in afghanistan at the beginning.Maybe we could have cut off their escape into pakistan.Now we're gonna have to fight them there.This is what happens when evangelicals choose presidents.Religious fundamentalists fighting religious fundamentalists,with oil as a subplot. _________________ Gimme some demand destruction. |
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Pixie Heavy Crude


Joined: Sep 05, 2006 Posts: 344 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| bonehead wrote: | | This is what happens when evangelicals choose presidents.Religious fundamentalists fighting religious fundamentalists,with oil as a subplot. |
And the bombs continued falling
And both sides continued calling
For God's vengeance on the Infidel
But God continued stalling.
And our leaders keep on lying
About the numbers that are dying
And somewhere out in the desert
Another child has stopped crying. _________________ Just another tofu-munching bike-riding Rambo(/Rambette) |
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Ferretlover Moderator


Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3855 Location: Minniesotuh
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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U.S. strikes within Pakistan — without notice
In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center. …
Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be put off or turned down, this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval. …
"Oops! My bad!" _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto |
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gmin Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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| Concerned wrote: |
Off you go should be all over in two weeks. |
It's won't be over in 2 years, probably not even in 2 decades.
It can be predicted on the day US decided to occupy Iraq directly, rather than exercise control through a puppet.
What we see today and will see in the future are just result of that policy change, and what caused it. |
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ConcernedConsumer Tar Sands


Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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Pakistan's covert/terrorist activities are facilatated, maintained, and controlled by ISI which in turn is controlled/funded by the US. The ranks of ISI are US educated Pashtun officers and they were teh ones that created the Taliban and ushered in Al Qaida to enhance the diminishing Pashtun political dominance in Afghanistan. Whichever way the govt of Pakistan goes it'll be irrelevant to the terrorist related affairs as it would change absolutely nothing. ISI is its own govt and a govt to govt of Pakistan.
US has managed to stop Pakistan from selling further nuclear related know how to Iran. If they were serious about UBL or Taliban, I am sure they would have long stopped them through ISI. But somehow they are not. |
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Cid_Yama Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: US to deploy troops in Pakistan 'early in the new year' |
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This is the real story behind the story.
US launches military strike independently on another country's sovereign territory
In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center.
Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be turned down, this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval.
It is an approach that some U.S. officials say could be used more frequently this year.
What would happen if other countries decided to use this as a precedent? WWIII maybe? _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
It riles them to believe that you perceive the webs they weave. - Moody Blues |
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