AgentR11 wrote:Note the word "rated".
The environmental conditions required for the rating are unmeetable in a world that can't even keep the internet running.
Sure, they'll last longer than the cd, and dvd media, if written properly, and stored in appropriate environmental conditions; but now put yourself in the world where you *need* that blu-ray. Does your bluray drive still work? Are you able to find a low humidity, roomtemp environment to take the disk out. Do you have a reliable media to write to from the disc? You aren't possibly thinking of reading from the disk repeatedly, subjecting it to continuous mechanical strain, are you?
Ten years after the net fails, and your rig has been subjected to hundreds of power anomalies; your ups' have long since failed, and you're working on a jury-rigged lead acid cell, exactly how is that blu-ray disc going to help you, even if the media remains unchanged? I'm just not seeing it as realistic, and certainly not worthy of entrusting something important too.
If I HAD to bet on some physical digital media; I'd probably go with a bag full of CF cards, rotate and refresh,so that they get a rewrite, no more than once a month, and no less than once a year. Its a very durable form factor, and as long as refreshed often enough, could manage to keep a dataset valid for a lifetime without relying on a mechanical drive, or exacting environmental conditions. But even there, its the willingness to carry out the regular maintenance that will insure the data's validity. The card's characteristics just make it possible. Keeping a computer running that long after the death of the net is a modest problem itself, but the ubiquity of CF readers/writers and their durability (no mechanical parts), should keep access within the possible as long as some machine can be found. (and if no cpu can be found functional, you no longer have a use for the digital data anyway.)
AgentR11 wrote:I do have a thought about all this, if you're 5-10 years post collapse; net's dead, commodity system hardware is unavailable, power mostly dead; what will you not have already learned through physical use, that would both be useful, and in such an archive?
etheris wrote: . . . time's being sucked away on Facebook, YouTube, Google+, Twitter, Netflix, "Apps", etc.
Repent wrote:1% with power vs. 99% with clubs, who will win?
Repent wrote:If the establishment keeps eroding rights, dismantling entilements, failing to enforce anti-fraud laws for the banks, ect, ect. Then we will have revolution or civil war sooner rather than later.
Expect what we saw in Egypt, Libya, ect, last year to be coming to your home town shortly. (If it hasn't arrived with the occupy movement already). People are sharpening their knives, loading their guns, and preparing their guilotines for the bankers and the establishment. 1% with power vs. 99% with clubs, who will win?
etheris wrote:
Not so fast. OCCUPY, like WIKILEAKS is a CIA front. TPTB is fully in control in the homeland. They have "INCEPTION-ed" you if you truly believe that Wikileaks, OCCUPY, Ron Paul, etc is actually accomplishing anything. It all boils down to Information Warfare. Arab Spring was the work of TPTB to topple the Middle Eastern governments that were not pro-US. Wikileaks is a reverse psychology information warfare attempt at "inception-ing" the paranoid, conspiracy nuts, tinfoil zombies... Do you really think what happened in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, etc occurred without the interference of CIA and Mossad?
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