C8 wrote:Pops- I'm sorry, I simply don't see a lot of peer review among the PO crowd about each others claims. I see lots of criticism of stories that show seem to contradict the PO argument (my story above was an example) but I rarely, if ever, see PO people criticize anything said that reinforces the PO argument.
C8 wrote:I rarely, if ever, see PO people criticize anything said that reinforces the PO argument.
C8 wrote:Can you point some of this peer review criticism out for me?
+1Pops wrote:Peruse the forums, the whole place is full or people being critical! You keep mentioning "peer review" as if there is some editorial board here. The only review is by members debating the merit of various ideas.
+1 againPops wrote:C8, there are 2 parts to the discussion, there are the objective facts and there are the subjective opinions. PO.com is full of discussions of both, the problem is separating the two.
Dunning–Kruger effectThe Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".
Across four studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Meanwhile, people with true ability tended to underestimate their relative competence. Roughly, participants who found tasks to be relatively easy erroneously assumed, to some extent, that the tasks must also be easy for others.
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision" - Bertrand Russell
"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool." - Shakespeare
LinkC8 wrote:6. I think the Peak Oil community lacks a core. Climate Change has a core at the university level with researchers developing new knowledge and tools every day. PO is an orphan child- which has let it be taken over by the hucksters and doomers.
And it’s the oil patch. Of course there’s one tiny problem: other than complaining about govt regulations holding them back there’s zero incentive for the vast majority of them to share that insight. Obviously no one should expect public companies to try to warn anyone of a potential problem since that could damage stock valuations. And what of the privately owned companies: why should they spend any time doing something that doesn’t create cash flow for them?
Doesn't this describe exactly what the IEA is? Sure there mandate is a bit broader than just resource depletion and covers all issues energy related. And their forecasts may shade a bit too much on the optimistic side for many here. But I think this organization is exactly what you are talking about. No hucksters peddling fear & doom. Just straight up unbiased scholarship on energy issues.c8 wrote:6. I think the Peak Oil community lacks a core. Climate Change has a core at the university level with researchers developing new knowledge and tools every day. PO is an orphan child- which has let it be taken over by the hucksters and doomers. Fear sells books, web views, seminars, etc. it is hard to find an economic driver for straight up unbiased scholarship. There needs to be a website, organization, or set of individuals that work at a higher level and applies the same levels of scholarship to depletion issues as is done with global warming.
IEA - What we doThe International Energy Agency (IEA) is an autonomous organisation which works to ensure reliable, affordable and clean energy for its 28 member countries and beyond.
Founded in response to the 1973/4 oil crisis, the IEA’s initial role was to help countries co-ordinate a collective response to major disruptions in oil supply through the release of emergency oil stocks to the markets.
While this continues to be a key aspect of its work, the IEA has evolved and expanded. It is at the heart of global dialogue on energy, providing authoritative and unbiased research, statistics, analysis and recommendations.
Today, the IEA’s four main areas of focus are:
- Energy security: Promoting diversity, efficiency and flexibility within all energy sectors;
- Economic development: Ensuring the stable supply of energy to IEA member countries and promoting free markets to foster economic growth and eliminate energy poverty;
- Environmental awareness: Enhancing international knowledge of options for tackling climate change; and
- Engagement worldwide: Working closely with non-member countries, especially major producers and consumers, to find solutions to shared energy and environmental concerns.
IEA - Shared goalsThe member countries of the IEA seek to create conditions in which the energy sectors of their economies can make the fullest possible contribution to sustainable economic development and to the well-being of their people and of the environment.
In order to secure their objectives, member countries therefore aim to create a policy framework consistent with the following goals:
Diversity, efficiency and flexibility within the energy sector are basic conditions for longer-term energy security: the fuels used within and across sectors and the sources of those fuels should be as diverse as practicable. Non-fossil fuels, particularly nuclear and hydro power, make a substantial contribution to the energy supply diversity of IEA countries as a group.
The environmentally sustainable provision and use of energy are central to the achievement of these shared goals. Decision-makers should seek to minimise the adverse environmental impacts of energy activities, just as environmental decisions should take account of the energy consequences. Government interventions should respect the Polluter Pays Principle where practicable.
More environmentally acceptable energy sources need to be encouraged and developed. Clean and efficient use of fossil fuels is essential. The development of economic non-fossil sources is also a priority. A number of IEA member countries wish to retain and improve the nuclear option for the future, at the highest available safety standards, because nuclear energy does not emit carbon dioxide. Renewable sources will also have an increasingly important contribution to make.
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