SuperPowerHarperLand has also rattled it's mighty sword. Tremble in fear, Muskovite knaves.Plantagenet wrote:Poland calls emergency NATO meeting to discuss Russian threat
SuperPowerHarperLand has also rattled it's mighty sword. Tremble in fear, Muskovite knaves.Plantagenet wrote:Poland calls emergency NATO meeting to discuss Russian threat
Lore wrote:We're doing exactly what we should be doing. Isolating Putin economically will make him a pariah among the Russian oligarchs.
Lore wrote:Sixstrings wrote:Lore wrote:What would you suggest we do? Send troops?
I suggest we do exactly what Putin is doing. We should have NATO doing exercises in Poland right now, showing American and NATO military might to our adversaries in the world -- just as Russia is, over the other side of the Ukraine border.
Lore, we should be doing just what Putin is doing, tit for tat, testing him as he tests us -- that's what Russia wants, and they're going to keep this up until they get it. Then we can both meet in the middle and negotiate from a position of demonstrated strength.
(i know im going all dr. strangelove, but there's got to be something we can do like back in the 1960s, to show strength and readyness short of war with Russia -- like the berlin airlift. We could be there for west ukraine, send supplies in, do *something*, Russia can't nuke us over that unless they're madmen ... and we MUST show some strength here, somehow, if you don't then the world forgets that and you've got Putin doing this then China next then Iran)
We're doing exactly what we should be doing. Isolating Putin economically will make him a pariah among the Russian oligarchs. Russia wants and needs to be a global economic power. This is not last century Cold War brinksmanship. Times have changed. He would love for us to engage in some type of military action to give him an excuse for his actions.
Keith_McClary wrote:SuperPowerHarperLand has also rattled it's mighty sword. Tremble in fear, Muskovite knaves.
Yah, if we could harvest wind power from Harper we really would be an energy superpower.Sixstrings wrote:Anyhow, Canada's strength of words is at least something.
Sixstrings wrote:sunweb wrote:Sixstrings - brainwashed, yes you are.
I'm going to have to start voting Republican. I'm with Dems on domestic policy, but you cannot put foreign policy and the commander in chief position in liberal hands.
Iraq and Afghanistan were *nothing*. Seriously endangering our national security is a big deal, in comparrison -- to the point where China will feel emboldened to war on Japan. And God only knows what Iran will do. And look what Putin is doing.
Sixstrings wrote:Fair enough, if the sanctions are tough and bite then okay.
OTOH.. it's a darn shame to make ordinary Russians suffer over this. Look at other sanctioned nations. Iraq, Iran, North Korea.
Sixstrings wrote:
Well that's swell.. little mock Ukrainian villages they're blowing up in these exercises.. could the message be any clearer?
Sixstrings wrote:
Fair enough, if the sanctions are tough and bite then okay.
dolanbaker wrote:As each day passes, the chances of a shooting war decrease.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
BobInget wrote:Pro-Kiev demonstrators said "Odessa is a Ukrainian city" and "We don't need Russian help," while pro-Russia demonstrators proclaimed "Odessa is a Russian city."
radon1 wrote:People are shouting ..."Odessa is a Russian city"...
Plantagenet wrote:radon1 wrote:People are shouting ..."Odessa is a Russian city"...
Actually, its a Ukrainian city. But don't let the facts interfere with your propaganda campaign.
Pops wrote:Putin sanctioned himself, LOL, the Russian stock market dropped US$60 billion and the ruble finished lowest ever against the dollar before he backtracked.
Being a tyrant, oligarch and barechested tough (LOL) ain't as easy as it used to be, makes him wish for the good old days I bet.
Sixstrings wrote:Not right away. Wesley Clark was talking about this, shale alternatives in Europe, and that Europe could import from the mid east and the US. But yep it would be a big disruption to lose Russian gas -- thing is though, Russia would crumble too if Euros weren't buying its gas. Russia would have to build pipelines to China and India first (which has been talked about).
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