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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 17:50:42

SeaGypsy wrote:why the crappy B & W.....


Photos taken from satellite platforms have to be transmitted back to earth. It takes a lot less bandwidth to transmit a high res B & W photo than a color image, so a lot of scientific imagery is done in B & W, especially when color isn't very important to the purpose of the photo.

I really can't believe that after you guys complained that there were no photos of the Apollo moon landing sites and I then linked you to these spectacular photos that are so detailed that they show the landers, the rovers, and even show individual trails left by the astronauts, that you then starting kvetching about the photos not being in color.

A simple "thank you" for showing you this cool link would've sufficed.

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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 17:58:37

Okay here is a link to 10 reasons why the lunar landing was probably a hoax. Let us see anyone disprove these reasons.
http://listverse.com/2012/12/28/10-reas ... be-a-hoax/
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:10:56

onlooker wrote: the lunar landing was probably a hoax. Let us see anyone disprove these reasons.


If the lunar landings were a hoax, then how could satellite telescopes today take pictures of the moon's surface that show the lunar landing sites and the lander module, rover, flag pole site, sample sites and footprints and rover tracks connecting it all on the surface of the moon?

Riddle me that. :lol:
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:13:11

That is from NASA, they are obviously part of the cover-up.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:30:13

Plantagenet wrote:
onlooker wrote: the lunar landing was probably a hoax. Let us see anyone disprove these reasons.


If the lunar landings were a hoax, then how could satellite telescopes today take pictures of the moon's surface that show the lunar landing sites and the lander module, rover, flag pole site, sample sites and footprints and rover tracks connecting it all on the surface of the moon?

Riddle me that. :lol:

If they can show the lunar module and tracks etc on the moon how come they cant clearly show the plane that hit the Pentagon surely there would have been a few cameras pointing all over the place there for security?
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:36:21

Shaved Monkey wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:
onlooker wrote: the lunar landing was probably a hoax. Let us see anyone disprove these reasons.


If the lunar landings were a hoax, then how could satellite telescopes today take pictures of the moon's surface that show the lunar landing sites and the lander module, rover, flag pole site, sample sites and footprints and rover tracks connecting it all on the surface of the moon?

Riddle me that. :lol:

If they can show the lunar module and tracks etc on the moon how come they cant clearly show the plane that hit the Pentagon surely there would have been a few cameras pointing all over the place there for security?

Riddle me that. :lol: Planty
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:47:46

onlooker wrote:If they can show the lunar module and tracks etc on the moon how come they cant clearly show the plane that hit the Pentagon surely there would have been a few cameras pointing all over the place there for security?
Riddle me that. Planty


Sigh. Haven't we talked about all this already onlookery? Can't you figure it out for yourself?

OK. Here's how it is. The last thing the Pentagon is going to do is release movies of the passenger plane hitting the pentagon. Those movies would be copied and incorporated into ISIS and al Qaeda propaganda videos faster then you can say ALLAH AKHBAR. The Pentagon isn't in the business of releasing videos of American soldiers being killed to provide material for Islamist propaganda videos.

Next dumb question please. :roll:
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:58:01

Oh planty do not get me started on 911 the official story has more holes in it than this Swiss cheese.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Cog » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 19:03:00

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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 19:24:53

They are either prepared to question the status quo belief in crap like 9/11 & the Apollo missions or they are not


As I said before, I'm 95% certain the Apollo missions were real, however there are some serious omissions and a credibility gap, whereas people are not allowed to question the official narrative. Whenever they ban a book, or a movie, or say 'You can't think that', then it's time to read the book, watch the film or take a deeper look into what someone else doesn't want you to see.

That we are ridiculed even for looking at, or discussing the claims people have made about the Apollo landing being faked is a warning sign. Science progresses through falsification. Whenever a scientist makes a bold claim, people immediately try to prove it wrong; this is the scientific method. Let's look at each claim one by one, if we can't prove them wrong, then they are right and fact is established.

Some of the moon landing claims are ridiculous, aliens were involved, you can walk around on the moon without a spacesuit (Bill Cooper actually publicly made this claim), and so forth.

I'm with seagypsy here though that at least the first Apollo 11 event was staged, a fake psyops event to beat the Soviets to the moon. That the science advanced and we went their later, doesn't disprove that there is some dishonesty involved here. I'd rather know the truth, no matter how painful it is.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 20:04:13

Shaved Monkey wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:
onlooker wrote: the lunar landing was probably a hoax. Let us see anyone disprove these reasons.


If the lunar landings were a hoax, then how could satellite telescopes today take pictures of the moon's surface that show the lunar landing sites and the lander module, rover, flag pole site, sample sites and footprints and rover tracks connecting it all on the surface of the moon?

Riddle me that. [emoji38]

If they can show the lunar module and tracks etc on the moon how come they cant clearly show the plane that hit the Pentagon surely there would have been a few cameras pointing all over the place there for security?

Lol. Coz they are f'kin w us.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sun 14 Feb 2016, 18:56:49

I believe certain conspiracy theories are plausible and likely true, but others are less plausible and unlikely to be true. Nothing wrong with being a conspiracy theorist, as long as the theories you believe in are backed by good evidence.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 14 Feb 2016, 19:58:09

DesuMaiden wrote:I believe certain conspiracy theories are plausible and likely true, but others are less plausible and unlikely to be true. Nothing wrong with being a conspiracy theorist, as long as the theories you believe in are backed by good evidence.

Would you care to give some examples of conspiracies you believe and some you don't believe.
For instance I believe it is more then likely that the Kennedy's murdered Marilin Monroe because she was about to become an embarrassment to them. On the other hand I don't believe any of the 911 conspiracy theories involving "planned explosions" .
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby vox_mundi » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 14:32:31

Department of Justice Lists Survivalists, Constitutionalists in Extremism Guide

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A recent Department of Justice guide for investigators of criminal and extremist groups lists “constitutionalists” and “survivalists” alongside organizations like Al-Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood.

The 120-page, “Law Enforcement Sensitive” guide to “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism – Terms and Concepts” describes itself as “a glossary designed primarily as a tool for criminal justice professionals to enhance their understanding of words relating to extremist terminology, phrases, activities, symbols, organizations, and selected names that they may encounter while conducting criminal investigations or prosecutions of members of extremist organizations.”

... Survivalists are described in the document as fearing a “coming collapse of civilization” and are trying to prepare themselves for this collapse.

Such individuals are said to have “typically stockpiled food, water, and weapons, especially the latter, and instructed themselves on topics ranging from first aid to childbirth to edible plants”.

The guide defines the term “New World Order” as being “used by conspiracy theorists to refer to a global conspiracy designed to implement worldwide socialism”. The Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations are described as organizations “targeted by right-wing extremists for conspiring to dominate the world”. The guide also defines “One World Government” as the “concept that there will ultimately be a single governing body that will control the world”, adding that “some right-wing extremists fear this occurring, believing that white people will be in the minority, with Jewish people ultimately controlling the world”.

The obvious result of the inclusion of terms such as “Bilderberg Group” and “Trilateral Commission” in a report titled “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism” is that law enforcement officials unaware of these groups will tend to associate legitimate discussion as “extremist” speech.

This diminishes the credibility of any person attempting to rationally discuss such groups and fosters a perception that any discussion of such groups could be associated with a supposedly “extremist” ideology.

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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 15:05:15

vox_mundi wrote:.. Survivalists are described in the document as fearing a “coming collapse of civilization” and are trying to prepare themselves for this collapse.

Such individuals are said to have “typically stockpiled food, water, and weapons, especially the latter, and instructed themselves on topics ranging from first aid to childbirth to edible plants”.


Ohmigod. NO wonder the obama administration is so worried about survivalists. They are actually educating themselves about the world and planning ahead for potential problems. What a bunch of extremists!
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby vox_mundi » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 15:20:11

Plantagenet wrote:
vox_mundi wrote:.. Survivalists are described in the document as fearing a “coming collapse of civilization” and are trying to prepare themselves for this collapse.

Such individuals are said to have “typically stockpiled food, water, and weapons, especially the latter, and instructed themselves on topics ranging from first aid to childbirth to edible plants”.


Ohmigod. NO wonder the obama administration is so worried about survivalists. They are actually educating themselves about the world and planning ahead for potential problems. What a bunch of extremists!

Should have checked the link first

This project was supported by Grant No. 2007-NC-BX-K002 awarded by the Bureau of
Justice Assistance.

DoJ Terrorism and Criminal Extremism Terms and Concepts Guide
Version 1.0 covers September 2005–2009

The Guide was issued by Bush's DOJ - not Obama's
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 15:59:24

vox_mundi wrote: Bush's - not Obama


Is there a difference? The current administration is doing exactly the same thing. In fact, the Obama administration commissioned what seems to be an almost identical report characterizing survivalists as potential terrorist threats:

in a report prepared for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is asking the Federal Government to create a new inter-agency task force which will be dedicated to tracking and taking down conspiracy theorists, survivalists, etc…..
The Government Supported Attack Group, who is actively creating lists and conducting surveillance on Americans, says the following people need to be tracked by the Federal Government.
Those who talk about, or believe in Conspiracy Theories.
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Those who call themselves Survivalist
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The report was written by J. Richard Cohen, President of the SPLC and a member of the Department of Homeland Security’s Countering Violent Extremism Working Group.


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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby vox_mundi » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 16:18:46

Plantagenet wrote:
vox_mundi wrote: Bush's - not Obama


Is there a difference?

Yes.

One begins with a "B" and one begins with an "O"


It's a sign of mental laziness

Using the same word for two separate things is like saying you can't tell the the difference between piss and shit.
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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 25 Feb 2016, 16:52:58

vox_mundi wrote:Yes.

One begins with a "B" and one begins with an "O"


It's a sign of mental laziness

Using the same word for two separate things is like saying you can't tell the the difference between piss and shit.


Congrats on being able to tell the difference between those last two items. You are indeed highly perceptive.

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Re: Yes I am a conspiracy theorist

Unread postby JV153 » Sat 27 Feb 2016, 06:17:52

A real mystery - the shoes on the power lines - yes, this effect has made it to Finland as well. What does it mean ?
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