Poordogabone wrote:Richard Wolff is a professor of economics. In this lecture, he breaks all misconceptions of what socialism is.
What most people think is socialism is only state capitalism.
Well worth the watch whether you are leaning to the left or the right.
This is a 50 mn clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uwj4tBuCmY
Poordogabone wrote:AD did you watch the clip ?, Could you reformulate your argument so a laymen like me can understand. Wolff says in simple words that in so called socialist or communist countries, the ruling class was replaced from private to state control which would probably have Marx roll in his grave. The whole point of socialism was to obtain equality and democracy, for instance the mass of workers who actually produce the goodies who be in control of how, what and where to produce and most importantly how to dispense of the profits.
KaiserJeep wrote:
We all know how the game of Capitalist Monopoly works: one player wins and the rest lose, at least until the next round. But what if you are a permanent loser? That is unfair. The most obvious solution to this crisis is to remake the rules in your favor.
Brilliant minds among the loser community have made repeated attempts to make new rules that would allow them to become winners. They mostly ended up with appointing one of the players to be a dictator (usually themselves), who promises to redistribute everything on the board equally so that everyone wins.
Poordogabone wrote:This notion of winner/loser game seem very two dimensional just like a monopoly board.
In a nutshell you're advocating social Darwinism which tend to lead to fascism. In this game it doesn't take much to be a winner, if you have sociopathic tendencies you are well on your way.
I would prefer a system were there is the lease amount of suffering and environmental depredation but what do I know?
Poordogabone wrote:This notion of winner/loser game seem very two dimensional just like a monopoly board.
In a nutshell you're advocating social Darwinism which tends to lead to fascism. In this game it doesn't take much to be a winner, if you have sociopathic tendencies you are well on your way.
I would prefer a system were there is the lease amount of suffering and environmental depredation but what do I know?
Poordogabone wrote:That would all be fine if the "haves" played on the same board as the "have not" the thing is that the "haves" have carved quite a different board for themselves were each square is quite rosy whereas the board for the less fortunate consist pretty much of each square telling you to eat poop and obey or go to jail. IOW the game is rigged and there is no winner.
KaiserJeep wrote:
We all know how the game of Capitalist Monopoly works: one player wins and the rest lose, at least until the next round. But what if you are a permanent loser? That is unfair. The most obvious solution to this crisis is to remake the rules in your favor.
Poordogabone wrote:When I was 12 years old (over 40 years ago) I realized that one could make a lot of dough by speculating on the market. I understood instinctively that these people were not winners but parasites.
I learn later that most of humanity agrees with me. This obsession with money especially here in the US is taking the country down, never mind global warming.
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