SeaGypsy wrote:As a truckie in Australia I regularly am told by Tesla fans I'm about to be redundant, but nobody inside JITF is talking about it. Freight insiders know there's a lot more than just driving going on. Retrofitting the fleet plus the despatch & exchange facilities etc is a multi trillion dollar exercise. That is after the robots learn how to drive in all conditions.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
christhewriter wrote:Current cost of driving a vehicle:
• 0.20 Cents per mile for depreciation for the vehicle (assuming an average Toyota depreciates 2,500 bucks a year – been driven 12,000 miles).
• 0.16 Cents per mile for gasoline.
• 0.05 Dollars per mile on average for insurance
• 0.05 wear and tear (tires, oil change, etc.)
Total: 0.46 dollars per mile.
Self-driving cars will completely remove driver cost out of the equation. For a standard vehicle, the cost could be slashed to 0.46 dollars per mile vs 1.59 dollars per mile. That’s a 71% decrease in cost.
What does all that mean?
Plantagenet wrote:Do none of you people ever use mass transit?
Why not build a tram or run trains from LA to the airport? This is commonplace all over Europe and its cheaper for travelers then any of the options you are pushing. Plus its easy to take luggage on a train and you don't have to pay for expensive parking at the airport.
Both Seattle and Portland have already built airport trams here in the US----LA should do this too.
The new Seattle airport tram
Tanada wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:As a truckie in Australia I regularly am told by Tesla fans I'm about to be redundant, but nobody inside JITF is talking about it. Freight insiders know there's a lot more than just driving going on. Retrofitting the fleet plus the despatch & exchange facilities etc is a multi trillion dollar exercise. That is after the robots learn how to drive in all conditions.
Just pause for a moment and think how much easier it would be to fully automate a freight train than a freight truck. Trains run on tracks, no need for steering. Trains travel very long distances on well known routes without needing frequent stops, at least for unit trains. Nobody has seriously considered fully automating unit trains hauling a mile of oil tanks/coal hoppers/shipping containers on any of those well known 1600 km long routes with a simple beginning and end point. Why not?
batistasatoshi wrote:So, based on these "facts" (Sorry, but I agree with Outcast_Searcher, you have to share the source or sources where you claim this), how much will the cost be for both public and private transportation then, like shuttles, taxis, buses, limousines, etc.?
Outcast_Searcher wrote:then we have the small towns, which a huge proportion of rural Kentuckians live. In the vast majority of those, there is zero mass transit, nor any realistic plans for any. For those folks, you may as well chide them for not believing in angels as to chide them for not using mass transit.
careinke wrote:I believe the insurance costs for driverless cars would drop dramatically. With todays technology, a driverless car would be almost impossible to crash, and if it did, it would not be at fault. With a web set up between driverless cars, traffic flow would be very efficient, speeding tickets would disappear along with traffic jams, saving both energy and time.
I look forward to the day. I think it will be sooner than most of us suspect.
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