sjn wrote:Pops wrote:The ETP bullshit needs to stay in the ETP BS thread.
Whether or not the ETP is mathematically defensible, even ignoring entropy (which I think is a mistake) can't we all agree that qualitatively, as we reach for the fruit (barrels) at the top of the tree, more effort and resources (capital) are diverted from the non-energy harvesting portion of the economy? That at some point that becomes unsustainable..?
comon man, you know I wrote the book on PO! Well at least the What is PO for PO.com:
suffice to say that oil becomes more difficult and expensive to extract as a field ages past the mid-point of its life.
Of course even that is an oversimplification. But nevertheless, I've not changed my belief that FF are finite. What has changed is my belief that the world economy, including oil production, can be summed up in a bumper sticker, no matter how many times it is quoted.
peakers to a one denied LTO would amount to anything but rather than admit to being wrong and modifying their view, they just donald their way through and double down - yeah, well, PO was really in '05; no, it was 72, no wait '28...
...my corn flakes are soggy, thanks PO.
lol, if no one wants to discuss actual events or challenge PO touchstones (like the sainted Hirsch Plan actually being about increasing FFs) (or that technology and price did beat "geology" if only for a time) that's fine, but don't pretend that because I try to keep an open mind that you need to quote to me the precept of finite resources.