Sixstrings wrote:Pops wrote:Newfie wrote:It's statements like that that I hear as hysterical.
really?
try google
Pops wrote:I don't see the problem if Stein pays.
Confirming everything works shouldn't be a big deal and might placate some folks.
Estimated $3.5 million recount to begin Thursday
Wisconsin's 72 county clerks are gearing up for the presidential recall effort by hiring thousands of temporary workers for the job.
http://www.wisn.com/article/green-party-volunteers-to-observe-recount/8374396
Pops wrote:Newfie wrote:It's statements like that that I hear as hysterical.
really?
try google
Pops wrote:I don't see the problem if Stein pays.
Confirming everything works shouldn't be a big deal and might placate some folks.
Likely less damaging than POTUS tweeting that millions cheated with zero evidence.
Newfie wrote:Pops wrote:Newfie wrote:It's statements like that that I hear as hysterical.
really?
try google
Come on Pops, what the hell does that mean?
How do you "hack" something not connected to the Internet?
It's statements like that that I hear as hysterical.
Newfie wrote:What I have a problem with is people getting all sound up about it on BOTH sides. Trump should shut his trap. All this silly speculation about Russin or other hacking should stop until something substantive comes to light.
Getting A Recount In Pennsylvania Is Next To Impossible
November 28, 2016 5:43 PM
By Jon Delano
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — Donald Trump won Pennsylvania by just 71,000 votes out of 5.8 million votes cast.
But his 1 percent victory over Hillary Clinton was enough to avoid the state’s automatic recount triggered when a vote margin is less than one-half percent.
I’m looking to get an accurate count on the vote,” Weslee Hursh, of Centerville Borough, told KDKA political editor Jon Delano on Monday.
Hursh filed a petition at the Washington County Elections Bureau to recount the ballots in her precinct, even though she’s not alleging any fraud by the Trump campaign.
“That’s not the purpose of this,” says Hursh. “The purpose of this is to make sure that the election was true.”
Via social media, Green Party nominee Dr. Jill Stein urged Pennsylvania voters to file recount petitions.
“Pennsylvania is the only state in which the recount process has to be initiated by actually thousands of voters,” Stein says in her video.
Filing a petition to challenge an election result, to get a recount, in the whole state of Pennsylvania is almost next to impossible.
As citizens in western Pennsylvania are quickly discovering, it’s a very, very complicated process.
“You realize that this has to have three electors, and I only see two,” Washington County Assistant Elections Director Wesley Parry told Hursh on Monday.
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Hursh’s petition was rejected because it was signed by two voters, not three.
In fact, to recount Washington County alone would take 528 signatures.
“Three in each precinct,” said Parry. “So, it can’t just be 528 random people. They have to be registered electors in each separate precinct, three per.”
And the deadline has passed in many counties.
Election officials in both parties insist the results are accurate.
“No system in this state is attached to the internet in any way, so this whole notion of being hacked is farcical at best,” says Parry.
The Stein campaign went to court today to, “protect the right to substantively contest the election” beyond the recounts at the precinct level.
Now, it’s not too late in some counties.
Allegheny County postponed final certification of its results to give voters more time to file petitions.
Then, there’s the money requirement for some, but not all, filings.
Westmoreland County officials said that two petitioners walked out when they were told it would cost them $150 to file.
Gov. Tom Wolf tells the “KDKA Morning News” during his bi-weekly visit that does doesn’t think there can be a total state recount in Pennsylvania.
“Once counties…certify the results, I believe a recount is not possible. Some have completed them, some have not and the state is helping counties who have received recount petitions,” says Wolf.
According to Wolf, the counties that have received recount petitions are Berks, Bucks, Centre, Montgomery and Philadelphia, but he doesn’t know how many petitions have been filed in each county.
“We don’t have any reason to believe there was fraud [in Pennsylvania]…we just don’t see any evidence of that,” says Wolf.
Jill Stein: If I Had Dropped Out, Donald Trump Would Have Gotten My Voters
During an interview about her effort to recount votes in several states won by Donald Trump, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein tells MSNBC's Craig Melvin that if she hadn't been a candidate.
CRAIG MELVIN, MSNBC: We should also not this: The margin in Wisconsin between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton is about 22,000 voted. You received 31,000 votes in that state. What do you think the outcome might have been had you decided not to run?
JILL STEIN: Well, the numbers show that if I weren't running, or if I would have dropped out, most Green voters would not have voted, and of the remainder, a substantial number, more than one third, would have voted for Donald Trump. So unfortunately, the numbers are very clear that absent my campaign, the results would have been absolutely the same. It would not have changed the outcome in any state.
Newfie wrote:no evidence of a hack.
Pops wrote:from wapoReached by email, Halderman pointed us to a statement he'd written at Medium. It's a lengthy examination of how vote-tallying systems have been rigged or manipulated in the past, but the most important line (for our purposes) is this one:
Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked.
https://www.cnet.com/news/stuxnet-deliv ... umb-drive/An Iranian double agent working for Israel used a standard thumb drive carrying a deadly payload to infect Iran's Natanz nuclear facility with the highly destructive Stuxnet computer worm, according to a story by ISSSource.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security ... r-facilitySometime around 2008, computerized industrial control system equipment bound for Iran was intercepted, and Stuxnet or other malware was installed on it before it was sent on its way, McBride posits.
https://www.wired.com/2014/11/countdown ... y-stuxnet/To get Stuxnet to its target machines, the attackers first infect computers belonging to five outside companies that are believed to be connected in some way to the nuclear program. The aim is to make each “patient zero” an unwitting carrier who will help spread and transport the weapon on flash drives into the protected facility and the Siemens computers.
dohboi wrote:It's really getting hard to converse with folks that are determined not to listen to what is actually said, don't you find?
dohboi wrote:Yes, Pops, we all here are pretty sure that you would benefit from a hysterectomy!
It's really getting hard to converse with folks that are determined not to listen to what is actually said, don't you find?
Plantagenet wrote:Trump was rightly ridiculed for claiming before the election that the election was rigged
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