pstarr wrote:This is another deluded thread. You white middle-class guys are not going to crash a system. you are the system. You do your part every day when you buy internet time, food, gasoline and stuff at Target. You are the recipients of a global network of materials, transportation, labor, currency flows and debt. Your soda cans are made with Jamaican bauxite, not Jah Love. You energy comes from Saudi Arabia, the banks move your money where it does YOU the most good. And where the cheapest labor is.
We have no choice but to support the system. You would have to kill yourself to really make a difference. Unlike folks in other nations around the world, you are all ICE-dependent. Everything you do or think or say comes from somewhere else including your food, energy, and waste dumps. The rest of the world really has local agriculture and industry. People are close to their jobs and their food. And when they travel it is by bus and train. We are energy hogs, but worse we are stuck with our auto-centric highway dispersed lives
And forget Permaculture. It's just another (semi-religious) multi-level marketing scam, kind of like Scientology or Juice Plus. Permaculture won't fix anything because Permaculture requires land. Forget all those silly -vertical-farming, food-forest, local food delusions. Only the 1% of the 1% has enough land to grow food. If you are wealthy rural survivalist then perhaps you might give it a shot, but it won't be food-forests, aquaculture intercropping or keylines. Good old bean patches and corn rows.
For the rest, poor and middle-class alike the real arable land is already owned. Part of the US agriculture-export market. Part of the world trade. We feed the world in turn for their oil and goods. You guys want the land, then make REVOLUTION. It will fail, for revolution only comes from the bottom up. But the bottom is fed well and so will you be. McDonalds is your friend. I am going there right now.
Good post. Reserve banks know the energy data though, they'll control the market crash and guide the oil cliff. Isis/l will be blamed and WWIII will enter 1st world countries. The revolution will be a devolution, but if you saw all the dumbphone zombies in the cities then can only go up from here but friends say Black Mirror is popular now.
There used to be a lot of fish in McDee's fish sandwiches when I was a kid, with grass-fed beef surrounding you how can settle for a big mac, is it the chx nuggets, what's their addictive additives?