pstarr wrote:Had it occurred to you that perhaps, even racists, or simple right-wingers would prefer not to be reminded of their own racist pasts. Not all racists are idiots.
Squilliam wrote:We have the same thing in my country too Cog. We have had decades of left leaning professors too.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
KaiserJeep wrote:Those that deny history will be forced to repeat it.
Subjectivist wrote:You forgot the Home School movement in your list.
KaiserJeep wrote:Those that deny history will be forced to repeat it.
Squilliam wrote: Even the idea that private schools are better despite the massively greater funding is doubtful under many studies.
Plantagenet wrote:pstarr wrote:Had it occurred to you that perhaps, even racists, or simple right-wingers would prefer not to be reminded of their own racist pasts. Not all racists are idiots.
Good point. Except this is all about the Ds and their idiotic racist past.
The Ds put these monuments up to honor their heroes of the Confederacy after they lost the civil war and now the Ds are taking them down to try to literally "cover up" this part of American History. Its like the Ds want to "disappear" US history.
I think it would be much better to leave them up as curious monuments to the failed D dream of slavery and The Confederacy. People could learn from it all that way.
The whole liberal fantasy that we should turn everywhere into a "safe space", i.e. a smiley phony Disneyland, where nothing will "trigger" them off is just childish.
Cheers!
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
evilgenius wrote:Another thing is a problem, although it is only a problem for the conscientious. That is that while the scientific approach works fantastically it necessitates experiment. The whole idea with experiment is to find out if theory meets reality. The conscientious will not experiment with an entire generation of children. They won't experiment with a subset, or risk taking a few valuable years out of even one child's life.
You can argue that where education is now requires experiment to figure out how to do it better. The trouble with that kind of thinking, however, is that it would exclude the conscientious from the system. I think the system needs the conscientious. I also think it needs some experiment. Perhaps a method of experiment which exercised enough self-restraint that it never tried to go too far over any one period would fit the bill? There is a danger in this approach as well. It could be that what is required to arrive at the kind of change needed must have a sort of critical mass in order to work. You can see that this may, in fact, be true from viewing the importance of peer groups in children's lives. This alone isn't a stopper, but it does mean that changes have to occur across more than a narrow range of students at any one time. It also means they can't come completely out of context, such that speculation over them leads to misunderstanding and abuse which run counter to the goals of any initiative.
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