onlooker wrote:Very intriguing all your replies. I chose the second option drastic die off and civilization fall. So, I do believe we have been checkmated But of paramount consideration is the negative impact our huge population and ways of living are having on the Earth. The longer this continues in my estimation the more we risk changing the conditions of this planet to one's almost universally inhospitable for human life
SeaGypsy wrote:I'm arguing that evolution is taking place constantly, that natural selection though thwarted, still bubbles away under the surface, that human nature is still incredibly resilient & may just find ways to muddle through & become better at living on a finite planet- just maybe this is already happening, just lost in the noise on both sides- doom vs capitalist globalist OWG Utopianism.
GHung wrote:onlooker wrote:Very intriguing all your replies. I chose the second option drastic die off and civilization fall. So, I do believe we have been checkmated But of paramount consideration is the negative impact our huge population and ways of living are having on the Earth. The longer this continues in my estimation the more we risk changing the conditions of this planet to one's almost universally inhospitable for human life
I'll call you on that and up the ante. The way humans treat each other is to dehumanize the other tribe and make war, not just on other countries, but, as things get dicey and unsure, on each other, as we see so much of these days. If nature doesn't do most of us in, we will. It's all part of overshoot. There is no "WE".
"....human nature is still incredibly resilient & may just find ways to muddle through & become better at living on a finite planet- just maybe this is already happening, just lost in the noise on both sides...
Wicked problem
"A wicked problem is a problem that is difficult or impossible to solve because of incomplete, contradictory, and changing requirements that are often difficult to recognize. The use of the term "wicked" here has come to denote resistance to resolution, rather than evil.[1] Another definition is "a problem whose social complexity means that it has no determinable stopping point".[2] Moreover, because of hard interdependencies, the effort to fix one part of a wicked problem may open or create other problems.
Rittel and Webber's 1973 formulation of wicked problems in social policy planning specified ten characteristics:[4][5]
There is no definitive formulation of a wicked problem.
Wicked problems have no stopping rule.
Solutions to wicked problems are not true-or-false, but better or worse.
There is no immediate and no ultimate test of a solution to a wicked problem.
Every solution to a wicked problem is a "one-shot operation"; because there is no opportunity to learn by trial and error, every attempt counts significantly.
Wicked problems do not have an enumerable (or an exhaustively describable) set of potential solutions, nor is there a well-described set of permissible operations that may be incorporated into the plan.
Every wicked problem is essentially unique.
Every wicked problem can be considered to be a symptom of another problem.
The existence of a discrepancy representing a wicked problem can be explained in numerous ways. The choice of explanation determines the nature of the problem's resolution.
The social planner has no right to be wrong (i.e., planners are liable for the consequences of the actions they generate)......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem
Super wicked problems
Kelly Levin, Benjamin Cashore, Graeme Auld and Steven Bernstein introduced the distinction between "wicked problems" and "super wicked problems" in a 2007 conference paper, which was followed by a 2012 journal article in Policy Sciences. In their discussion of global climate change, they define super wicked problems as having the following additional characteristics:[32]
Time is running out.
No central authority.
Those seeking to solve the problem are also causing it.
Policies discount the future irrationally.
While the items that define a wicked problem relate to the problem itself, the items that define a super wicked problem relate to the agent trying to solve it. Global warming is a super wicked problem .....
SeaGypsy wrote:Top level predators capable of living on algae, insects, etc. Not much in common with any other top predator.
Newfie wrote:Yup, they will eat anything. Including one another.
Capitalisim.
Cog wrote:Newfie wrote:Yup, they will eat anything. Including one another.
Capitalisim.
Will this negatively affect the stock market?
baha wrote:In the next 20 years I expect humanity to be broke, not dead
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