asg70 wrote:You can't look at the statues in isolation. It's part of a larger "cultural revolution" style event which encapsulates cancel-culture and wokifying the media. A lot of this crosses the line as far as I'm concerned. It's not about the underlying intentions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
l: )Let's ask an actual historian, since every body here seems to be suddenly so concerned about history (tho I can't recall anyone loudly shouting about how the lockdowns have to end so that everyone can get back into museums to learn about history! :lo
asg70 wrote:You can't look at the statues in isolation. It's part of a larger "cultural revolution" style event which encapsulates cancel-culture and wokifying the media. A lot of this crosses the line as far as I'm concerned. It's not about the underlying intentions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
rockdoc123 wrote: There is good and bad in history but ignoring the bad, thinking you can simply wipe it away by destroying statues you mistakenly think represent those bad parts of history will achieve nothing good in the end.
Plantagenet wrote:Mobs are inherently dangerous because they can be swayed by stupid people to do stupid, violent things.
asg70 wrote:Plantagenet wrote:Mobs are inherently dangerous because they can be swayed by stupid people to do stupid, violent things.
And this is exactly why I think there should be an intelligence test to be allowed to vote. Voting in this country has become almost entirely emotion-driven rather than reason-driven. For instance, even those who vehemently opposed the left may have thought twice about voting in Trump if they really looked at the pros and cons from a more reasonable perspective. The more emotion-driven the more impulsive decisions become which can lead to really bad outcomes.
jedrider wrote:Many INTELLIGENT people voted for Trump.
asg70 wrote:jedrider wrote:Many INTELLIGENT people voted for Trump.
Not by my definition of the term.
jedrider wrote: a STUPIDITY test is needed.
vtsnowedin wrote:Back when they wrote the constitution voting was almost exclusively held by white male property owners. As the same group paid almost all the taxes they were the ones with skin in the game. The frontier American dream was to go out and carve out a property of your own and become a eligible voter with the prosperity that went with it.
I wonder what the polls would be like if they just polled that original group?
Newfie wrote:vtsnowedin wrote: I wonder what the polls would be like if they just polled that original group?
White male property owners or property owners?
In any case it and in the short term it would most likely gut the D party.
But as the parties adjusted to the “new normal” i think it would change a lot as they both catered to the voting demographic.
asg70 wrote: A well functioning democracy requires a minimum amount of sacrifice for the sake of the common good.
asg70 wrote:Every group votes to further their own selfish interests. .
vtsnowedin wrote:.... intelligent voters will vote for their long term interests, not unsustainable payouts. And individual long term interests are best assured by by having a viable prosperous economy with opportunities for the majority not just an elite few.
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