theluckycountry wrote:He researched city state civilizations back to the dawn of time and one finding, aside from an average 400 year lifecycle, was that they eventually entered a decline, 100 years or so, then a rapid collapse taking about 10 years.
One salient aspect of the collapse was that the people of the empire just gave up on the lifestyle, lost interest in the empire, ceased to work.
The decline encompasses many aspects, social, financial, spiritual even. Today most people in the western world decry religion, they want nothing to do with it, but strong belief and adherence to the principals of a deity was always a hallmark of a strong civilization. England was very ardently protestant when it came into it's powerful stage, the USA too, very religious. Whether individual people believed in the doctrines or not is irrelevant, it was a unifying force in the empires, it helped hold them together.
So today it's in the garbage bin, but so is honest business practices, the appropriate punishment of criminals, the family unit, the national money systems. They have all gone down together and the process has been underway for many many decades. I cold see Widdowson's collapse occurring at any time. They don't ring a bell, it just happens.
Hmmm. The collapse of the USSR didn't result in the collapse of Russia, but if you were our age or older living through it wasn't a pleasant experience. I'm over 60 and starting from scratch isn't a scenario I would relish. I think it pays to have a plan B and plan C in these times.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:He gave away:
1. his money to Jews,
2. his power and authority to feminists,
3. his cities to Mexicans and Muslims
4. his ass to gays.
That is what he has done and now there are consequences to face.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Plumbers and electricians will no longer come to work, then there will be few days of looting in darkness and that is how it will all end.
Sure, they will call police and army to help but these people will rather join looters as well.
theluckycountry wrote:
There was a good book put out around 2000 called "The Phoenix Principle
and the coming dark age" by Marc Widdowson. Quite a lengthy tome but I managed to wade through most of it. He researched city state civilizations back to the dawn of time and one finding, aside from an average 400 year lifecycle, was that they eventually entered a decline, 100 years or so, then a rapid collapse taking about 10 years. One salient aspect of the collapse was that the people of the empire just gave up on the lifestyle, lost interest in the empire, ceased to work.
Plantagenet wrote:Would you two anti-semitic loons please start your own thread and post your anti-semitic nonsense there rather then de-railing unrelated threads with this drivel?
Thank you.
theluckycountry wrote:Of course I would never live in a city again, especially not a mega city due to the pollution, noise, vulnerabilities etc etc, but in the spirit of your post Newfie
All else being equal (which it isn't)
Singapore
Tokyo
Osaka
These because social cohesion is strong, you don't have to consider security all that much, you are free to walk or cycle the streets at night, which is fun.
Newfie wrote:Except they won't let people like you, or me, in, which is what makes them good?
Does that indicate that all cosmopolitan cities are doomed?
That our future is to retreat to mono cultural enclaves? It may be observed Xi seems to be pushing in this direction.
Newfie wrote:theluckycountry wrote:
All else being equal (which it isn't)
Singapore
Tokyo
Osaka
Except they won't let people like you, or me, in, which is what makes them good?
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Re. - best city to live.
1. Singapore
2. Shanghai
3. Beijing
1. Here is China and it is great.
2. Outside are living barbarians.
Not that I will ever live in a city again.Newfie wrote:Here is a list of the wods largest cities. 81 are listed.
How about each of the correspondents on this thread pick out the 3 BEST, the ones they would like to live in.
If you can not find any you would like to live in then just pick the 3 LEAST BAD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities
Newfie wrote:Here is a list of the worlds largest cities. 81 are listed.
How about each of the correspondents on this thread pick out the 3 BEST, the ones they would like to live in.
If you can not find any you would like to live in then just pick the 3 LEAST BAD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
noobtube wrote:Does anyone here actually live in a big city region?
From personal experience, it takes a lot of years to really get the hang of living here and enjoying the benefits, without being rich, spending a lot, or getting government handouts (e.g. immigrants).
You also have to remember the cities thrive on young people. Once you hit 50, most people age-out of the city. Unless you took special care of yourself, adapted, or have useful skills, the city can be overwhelming for the old (including myself).
I see half-naked women, jogging by themselves, in the evening, for all to see. To do that, in a city, without any fear of assault says something about so-called crime in the American city.
theluckycountry wrote:Are you talking cities, or the White suburbs around some of them noobtube
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Never claimed any single penny from government on grounds that "I am poor and cannot cope, please help me".
Required information to be disclosed in claim forms is so humiliating that I would rather shoot myself than fill one.
Seriously.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:This is bringing very important question:
Can we afford it to keep cities going?
Demographic transition is completed.
Society is getting old and this problem is only going to be worse in coming decades. Kids are endangered species these days.
Who will want to live there?
Who will pay taxes to maintain city infrastructure?
IMO without radical demographic change - in direction of MUCH more kids - cities are not viable in medium term of 1-3 decades.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:I have seen sufficient numbers of half- and full- naked women that they no longer seem exciting.
Problem with overwhelming majority of women these days is that all what they can offer to you is to be naked.
But there is no brain, no substance, no ethics - just empty dolls.
Shallow, mindless consumers who will go to bed with anyone who tip them and then cry #me too!
Sure - there are odd exceptions but that doesn't change overall picture.
Degradation of women is IMO one of most important factors of decay of West.
You see, men which I have mentioned in humorous way few posts ago are of no use. Better dead than alive.
But if remaining several % cannot find a worthy woman, then it really is a game over.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Problem with overwhelming majority of women these days is that all what they can offer to you is to be naked. But there is no brain, no substance, no ethics - just empty dolls.
Shallow, mindless consumers who will go to bed with anyone who tip them and then cry #me too!
Sure - there are odd exceptions but that doesn't change overall picture.
Degradation of women is IMO one of most important factors of decay of West.
noobtube wrote:
For the United States, I think the plan is to use immigrants and their children to face these problems.
I read a report that millions of men in the United States have basically checked out of society.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/men-workfo ... facturing/
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