[Cabrone]

Bad news, though not as bad as the state of the N.Pole.

Once that pole goes (my guess is 2010) the phoney war will be over and we will see some real fun and games with climate.

Enjoy what time you have.

[cudabachi]

I see the denyalists and the do-nothing-ists are out in force today.

No matter how much or how fast things fall apart, these people will continue to blather,"It's all natural, nothing to worry about here, go on about your business of shopping, driving and flying..."

And of course by "doing nothing" if you are living an average life in a developed country (but especially in the US), your are doing something enormously damaging.

We are active participants in the destruction of the living world just by being "normal" participants in consumer culture.

This is hard to hear and hard to accept. So denyalists, keep on denying, and do-nothing-ists, keep telling yourselves that you are not culpable.

But know that you are not just part of the problem, you are the problem.

Gawd it must suck being you. February 27, 2004 must have been a really sad day at the dohboi household.

[Ferretlover]

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) -- Melting ice in southern Chile caused a glacial lake to swell and then empty suddenly, sending a "tsunami" rolling through a river, a scientist said Thursday. No one was injured in the remote region.
Glacier scientist Gino Casassa said the melting of the Colonia glacier, which he blamed on rising world temperatures, filled the Cachet Lake and increased pressure on the ice sheet.
River tsunami

[steam_cannon]

We're going to be hearing about a lot more of these in our lifetime...

Flood disaster threatens Himalayas
3:00 16 April 2002

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... layas.html

More than 40 lakes in the Himalayas could burst their banks at any
time and flood communities up to 100 kilometres downstream,
according to a new UN study. Very few of the people at risk would
get any advance warning.

The analysis of more than 5000 Himalayan glaciers and lakes
revealed 20 in Nepal and 24 in Bhutan that are at bursting point.
Hundreds more lakes elsewhere in the Himalayas remain unsurveyed.

The lakes are formed as mountain glaciers melt, a process much
accelerated by global warming. The water is kept in place by ice or
piles of sediment, known as moraines, that were deposited when
the glacier was at its longest. But as the lakes grow, the moraines
are starting to collapse and every monsoon season, the risk of a
disaster grows...

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Glacial lake outburst flood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_la ... urst_flood

[Zardoz]

Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?

Experts surprised that cold hasn't frozen trend, now expect quicker demise

New satellite images show that an Antarctic ice shelf continues to disintegrate — and even more surprising is that it's happening during the Southern Hemisphere's winter.

Experts warned last March, at the end of the Antarctic summer, that the Wilkins Ice Shelf was disintegrating more quickly, but they expected that the winter cold would put the trend in a temporary deep freeze.

At 6,000 square miles in size, Wilkins "is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last 50 years," David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey said in a statement released by the European Space Agency as it revealed the satellite images late Thursday.

Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves.

[Daniel_Plainview]

Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves.

Here! Here!

I'll cosign that memo ........

[Forney2008]

Right on Zardoz!! I believe the reason the AGW crowd has said there is no debate needed is because it is occurring and needs stopped. There are also tipping points, that once reached, can lead to a serious, quick acceleration in global temperature rise. Any debate on the subject by denialists ( paid for by Exxon) only will add the to future cost and misery that we humans will endure. If human beings chose to have a serious debate before trying any new endeavor, we would still be in the stone age today with few accomplishments.

[Ludi]

we would still be in the stone age today with few accomplishments.

...and not having to worry about global warming....





"accomplishments" maybe overrated.

[Cochise]

@Ludi

i don't think "accomplishments" is overrated.

Aren't you able that a dentist can fix a tooth using anesthetic created by some biochemist? I am!
Unfortunately, the same biochemist can easily create a powerful poison as well.
The same can be said for virtually any branch of science.
It is not the 'accomplishment' in itself that get us in trouble, it is how we decide to use it.

Ciao.

[essex]

Surprise! There’s an active volcano under Antarctic ice

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/20 ... rctic-ice/

The full Wilkins 6,000 square mile ice shelf is just 0.39% of the current Antarctic ice cover (just 0.1% of the extent last September).

[Armageddon]

Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?

Experts surprised that cold hasn't frozen trend, now expect quicker demise

New satellite images show that an Antarctic ice shelf continues to disintegrate — and even more surprising is that it's happening during the Southern Hemisphere's winter.

Experts warned last March, at the end of the Antarctic summer, that the Wilkins Ice Shelf was disintegrating more quickly, but they expected that the winter cold would put the trend in a temporary deep freeze.

At 6,000 square miles in size, Wilkins "is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last 50 years," David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey said in a statement released by the European Space Agency as it revealed the satellite images late Thursday.

Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves.

co-sign

[dissident]

The squirming denialists now are finding volcanoes under every piece of ice that is melting. They see them in the Arctic, they see them in the Antarctic and they see them where the sun don't shine. You blathering twits can't even be bothered to establish how long the volcanoes have been active and how much of their heat reaches the ice sheets in question. In the case of the Arctic it is the warm water currents from outside the Arctic basin that are the big story and not the volcanoes that have been there for millenia and never managed to destroy the ice sheet in the past. Similarly in the Antarctic, the warming oceans are *the* story.

[Zardoz]

Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?

Wait for it. Wait... Wait...

And there it is!

Surprise! There’s an active volcano under Antarctic ice.

[eastbay]

Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?

Wait for it. Wait... Wait...

And there it is!

Surprise! There’s an active volcano under Antarctic ice.

That only took 3 hours and 21 minutes. Not bad.

[americandream]

I suspect that as the gross mismanagement of this planet in resource wastage and climate destruction due to the peddling of unsustainable syetems becomes evident, these specimens shall have to be removed from our midst.

[Rogozhin]

That's great, there's probably vast amounts of oil that we can now extract since the ice will be gone.

[Lore]

That's great, there's probably vast amounts of oil that we can now extract since the ice will be gone.

By the time we can do this it may be pretty difficult with only a row boat, a snorkel and some reused plastic pipe.

As far as the denialist's claims of volcanos everywhere, all of a sudden that are melting the polar caps, they never bother to do the math. For instance, it would take nearly a thousand highly active volcanos to raise temperatures enough in the Arctic sea to just 1C, and that ignores surface cooling, in/out water flows and time rates.

Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack.

[Cochise]

Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack.

[Madpaddy]

Lore wrote,

Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack.

I can't resist.

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/pub ... 1163.shtml

UFO FOUND IN ICEBERG


Alien crew is missing & still at large, warn scientists! The captain of a ship rammed an iceberg in the frigid waters of the Greenland Sea -- and found a perfectly preserved UFO frozen inside. What's more, the alien crew is missing and may still be at large!

Scientists from all over the world have been summoned to an undisclosed location near the seacoast town of Scoresbysund, Greenland, to investigate the intact alien craft. "The design and technology of this space capsule is years ahead of anything yet developed on Earth," says Dr. Gerd Stuber of Bern, Switzerland. "It's definitely from another planet.

The discovery occurred above the Arctic Circle between Norway and Greenland when a seismic exploration ship struck a huge floating iceberg at about three p.m. on May 24. Damage to the ship was minor but the collision knocked a large piece out of the iceberg, exposing part of a strange metal object.

"My staff and I have examined every inch of it and all the evidence indicates that the craft was manned by a crew of five beings who apparently lost control and crashed. However, we can find no trace of them."

When the crew chipped away enough ice to get a good look at it, that metallic "something" turned out to be the hull of a UFO.

No one is able to pinpoint exactly when the spaceship crash-landed on Earth, or how it became encased in an iceberg, and experts differ widely about the fate of the missing aliens. and even when they might have crashed, some speculate that the great black out that hit the eastern sea board was caused by a ufo crash. "They're dead," says Dr. Juan Cordoba, noted Spanish biologist and member of Dr. Stuber's staff. "Even if they survived the crash, there's no way they could stay alive in New york with out being spotted."

[untothislast]

Climate change and Peak Oil deniers should show the courage of their convictions, and have a big 'D' tattooed on their foreheads.

That way, once these phenomena become so apparent as to be undeniable - even to the most retarded dullard - we'll know which time-wasters to shoot first.