Loki wrote:JJ wrote:webbots (which seemed to predict this collapse pretty well) predict China sized earthquake Dec 10 for Pacific Northwest.
Umm, OK. Maybe you an enlighten me as to the empirical evidence that these 'webbots' are basing their conclusions. I've never seen a webbot collect field data.
VMarcHart wrote:Make what? Be the Omega Man? There won't any medals being passed out, you know.Jenab6 wrote:We can make it...
Jenab6 (context restored) wrote:My area (Pocahontas County) has farms, animal ranches (cows, sheep, horses, goats) and locally grown animal feed. And a low population density, mostly hard working White people. We can make it, I think, if the government doesn't mess with the local economy.
Let's assume for a moment this will not happen. Then what? You and your fellow countymen are the last living people in the US?Jenab6 wrote:...Pocahontas County can feed itself, unless soldiers or other thieves come in and steal the food we produce.
Ben wrote:
It's probably instinctual for us to react to a crisis like this with the idea of trying to run, or stock up years of food as if preparing for a long winter, but this in my view is pointless because there's nowhere to run and the winter is not going to end.
cube wrote:*raises hand*
I'm too much of a city slicker to go anywhere.
I'm not a fan of the "escape from the city" mentality that so many people on this board have.
gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
Or wait for the crowd the stampede itself to death first, then stroll through.Pops wrote:I'm thinking if one really feels a dash for the exit will be needed at some point, then perhaps the best strategy is to stroll through now and avoid the rush.gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
VMarcHart wrote:Or wait for the crowd the stampede itself to death first, then stroll through.Pops wrote:I'm thinking if one really feels a dash for the exit will be needed at some point, then perhaps the best strategy is to stroll through now and avoid the rush.gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
Don't go by me, or worse, don't quote me around, but I don't see the a need to panic and run for the hills now in the middle of a stampede. I'm giving a few years before it gets to that point.Snowrunner wrote:I somewhat counted in my preparations on seeing the cracks in 2010 and having 5 years from there on out. Now it looks like the whole thing could be in full blown crisis mode by 2010.VMarcHart wrote:Or wait for the crowd the stampede itself to death first, then stroll through.Pops wrote:I'm thinking if one really feels a dash for the exit will be needed at some point, then perhaps the best strategy is to stroll through now and avoid the rush.gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
VMarcHart wrote:Don't go by me, or worse, don't quote me around, but I don't see the a need to panic and run for the hills now in the middle of a stampede. I'm giving a few years before it gets to that point.Snowrunner wrote:I somewhat counted in my preparations on seeing the cracks in 2010 and having 5 years from there on out. Now it looks like the whole thing could be in full blown crisis mode by 2010.VMarcHart wrote:Or wait for the crowd the stampede itself to death first, then stroll through.Pops wrote:I'm thinking if one really feels a dash for the exit will be needed at some point, then perhaps the best strategy is to stroll through now and avoid the rush.gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
This chat is making me visualize the herds crossing crocodile-infested rivers in Africa. They know they have to cross to find food. Then the panicky stampede. Some are attacked before they can swim 20 feet. Some just drown. Some reach the opposite bank but can't climb it, and are attacked too. Some calves are separated from their mothers and just die of hunger. Funny, some lucky bastards wait to see where the crocodiles are and aren't, where it's easier to climb the bank, wait for the crocodiles to be done attacking, etc. Key word being lucky. I'm counting on luck. I have no skills to survive the panicky stampede.Snowrunner wrote:Oh, I don't think you should run with the herd, either you're out before the herd starts moving or you better sit back and wait being in the middle of a panicked herd just gives you a good chance of being trampled.VMarcHart wrote:Don't go by me, or worse, don't quote me around, but I don't see the a need to panic and run for the hills now in the middle of a stampede. I'm giving a few years before it gets to that point.Snowrunner wrote:I somewhat counted in my preparations on seeing the cracks in 2010 and having 5 years from there on out. Now it looks like the whole thing could be in full blown crisis mode by 2010.VMarcHart wrote:Or wait for the crowd the stampede itself to death first, then stroll through.Pops wrote:I'm thinking if one really feels a dash for the exit will be needed at some point, then perhaps the best strategy is to stroll through now and avoid the rush.gampy wrote:Wow, hard to judge when to head for the exits.
VMarcHart wrote:Let's assume for a moment this will not happen. Then what? You and your fellow countymen are the last living people in the US?Jenab6 wrote:...Pocahontas County can feed itself, unless soldiers or other thieves come in and steal the food we produce.
VMarcHart wrote:Funny, some lucky bastards wait to see where the crocodiles are and aren't, where it's easier to climb the bank, wait for the crocodiles to be done attacking, etc. Key word being lucky. I'm counting on luck. I have no skills to survive the panicky stampede.
Your argument is bullet-proof and I agree with it. Jenab6 wrote, in summary, I don't need to run for hills because I already live in one, my neighbors and I can take care of ourselves "unless soldiers or other thieves come in and steal the food we produce". I hope not, but think it's a self-fulling prophecy.Auntie_Cipation wrote:So, what else is there?VMarcHart wrote:Let's assume for a moment this will not happen. Then what? You and your fellow countymen are the last living people in the US?Jenab6 wrote:...Pocahontas County can feed itself, unless soldiers or other thieves come in and steal the food we produce.
You're very kind, but I'm afraid I'm a one trick wonder, if that.Snowrunner wrote:The ones really screwed are people with "specialized skills", the true "hero" in this will in the end be the "Jack of of all Trades" because they tend to be easier to adapt to a changing environment. The ones drowning or eaten by the crocodiles are the "one trick wonders".
VMarcHart wrote:Jenab6 wrote, in summary, I don't need to run for hills because I already live in one, my neighbors and I can take care of ourselves "unless soldiers or other thieves come in and steal the food we produce". I hope not, but think it's a self-fulling prophecy.
Snowrunner wrote:...self sufficent you need really a small community with different skill sets, the problem being that those people are (in a way) hard to find. Then there is the question of how long it would take you to set things up and running and truly be self sufficent.
My estimation was that it would take at least three years for this group to iron out the kinks and really be able to "button up the hatches" and I also admit I did not expect things taking a turn to the ugly so quickly.
Pops wrote:I moved to an established community and after 4 years I'm only now getting somewhat set up - even with the help of folks who have lived here 60 years - none of them nor I are self-sufficient; just a little less dependent.
Yea, things are looking ugly but we ain't seen nothing yet, I'm only 50 but have seen worse.
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