[pana_burda]

SPOKE TOO SOONgot cash?

You Might Be an Idiot.

-if you get on a Russian Sub

One submarine equals to be an "idiot". NINE equals ..... ¿?


By the way, lucky fellars those rushky pilots, ain´t it?. Will chavenzuelans ones be that darned fortunate with those very toys?

[evgeny]

GAZ-2975 Tiger army truck link

extreme offroad from Russia link

extreme offroad from Russia.PART 2 link

The Soviet army trucks (ZIL) link

[evgeny]

I knew he will post something about US as an answer. Zhenia, whether US has a lot of debt or none, it doesn't change the fact that Russia can't afford to supply their troops with much of any of those things. There are 10 ( ten ) SU-30 in Russia. Thats 1 per year since they are in service. That's more than enough to guard oil and gas pipelines, I believe.
Overall, all those new tricks made by 50-60-70 yo engineers who make less money than a GI in a military prison. Young people do not wish to live like that, so there are no new good engineers to recrout. To top it there is a rabid die-off going on in Russia right now. Numbers of ''russians' ' are dropping by 2-3000 people PER DAY, and numbers of muslims and Chinese are growing by 350-450 people PER DAY. Soon enough Russia won't be Russian anymore without any foreign help.

Russian Aircraft Industry 2008: link

[evgeny]

Су-35/37 The Most Powerful Plane in the World link

[ReverseEngineer]

Instead of a Worldwide Thermonuclear War, how about this scenario Evgeny:

Ruskies get to pick 8 of their best armored divisions as Pawns, you get 2 Battleships as Rooks, 2 AWACS planes as Bishops, 2 Army Ranger/Navy SEAL/Green Beret Special Forces Commando teams as Knights, 1 Aircraft Carrier as Queen, and Gary Kasparov in charge for the Ruskies as King, with IBMs Big Blue in charge for the US, all fought out on say the chessboard of Australia? No Nukes allowed, winner take all.

The Chess Match of all time, for all the Marbles. Kasparov is the GREATEST human being ever to hit the Chessboard, but I don't think the equipment holds up here for him to win with it. I would not put it past Kasparov though, he is something else for sure. Still, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, so I'll place my bet on Big Blue and this set of Hardware. Up for the Game Evgeny?

Reverse Engineer

[evgeny]

Instead of a Worldwide Thermonuclear War, how about this scenario Evgeny:
Ruskies get to pick 8 of their best armored divisions as Pawns, you get 2 Battleships as Rooks, 2 AWACS planes as Bishops, --snip-- Still, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, so I'll place my bet on Big Blue and this set of Hardware. Up for the Game Evgeny?

American debts $ 50 trillion. This debts can be «pay» only by default, ie, through the denial of payment. U.S. economy can not pay the $ 50 trillion. They simply nowhere to take. Not only that it is a huge amount, so now it appears that the economy itself, represents a large an inflated bubble.

American debts can be «blurred» worldwide. But Americans still have to pay a lot. This all means that a new world financial configuration can only be the result of the disaster. Now we see attempts to escape in 1929, ie a deflationary shock. To do this, the Americans and their partner pumped in huge quantities peace unsecured liquidity. To understand them, of course, you can. Who will want to experience the same now one-stage in 1929? .. According to the principle of «infinite horror better than the awful end». Only an endless horror is not endless. And all this will end with hyperinflation.

[ReverseEngineer]

American debts $ 50 trillion.
This debts can be «pay» only by default, ie, through the denial of payment. U.S. economy can not pay the $ 50 trillion. --snip-- Only an endless horror is not endless. And all this will end with hyperinflation.

What does that have to do with the price of Tea in China? Of course its all worthless, the question in this thread is about the relative merits of the military hardware.
You wanna put Kasparov and your Kalishinikovs up against Big Blue and Smith & Wesson or not? Granted, we are fighting over a lot of NOTHING, but lets settle this one once and for all here please before we all head for the Great Beyond.

[evgeny]

What does that have to do with the price of Tea in China? Of course its all worthless, the question in this thread is about the relative merits of the military hardware. You wanna put Kasparov and your Kalishinikovs up against Big Blue and Smith & Wesson or not? Granted, we are fighting over a lot of NOTHING, but lets settle this one once and for all here please before we all head for the Great Beyond!

This stuff will blow up, better than nuc

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK link

[Pretorian]

This was true 8 years back. Everything is changing very rapidly.

Let me guess--- Putin The Great scratched off a few years from engineers birth certificates?

[evgeny]

Let me guess--- Putin The Great scratched off a few years from engineers birth certificates?

Russian Aircraft Industry 2008: link
Did you see 50-60-70 yo engineers ?

Sukhoi - Average employer age 40 yo

[evgeny]

Let me guess--- Putin The Great scratched off a few years from engineers birth sertificates?

Russian Aircraft Industry 2008: link
Did you see 50-60-70 yo engineers? Sukhoi - Average employee age - 40 yo
SU-47 (pentagon's nightmare) link

[evgeny]

The Americans made the first real smart bomb, but have been unable to cast her out of the plane

[Pretorian]

Did you see 50-60-70 yo engineers? Sukhoi - Average employee age - 40 yo

those were engineers? hahahahahaha
grow up, son.

[evgeny]

those were engineers? hahahahahaha grow up, son.

The external debt of the U.S. for September-October rose by more than 920 billion - up to 10.6 trillion. In the real economy, the main trouble lies ahead

[Pretorian]

The external debt of the U.S. for September-October rose by more than 920 billion - up to 10.6 trillion. In the real economy, the main trouble lies ahead

How that is relevant to anything that was quoted or to the topic of the thread? You know I thought of ignoring you a long time ago, but you are so much fun! I even feel bad about poking you sometimes.
As for US debt, first, its denominated in dollars. Second, its so big that its more of a problem of America's lenders than of America itself. Russia, by the way, owns hundreds of billions of US debt and worthless US stocks and bonds. IF US defaults, it'll mean that average Van'ka, a plumber from Muhosransk, of Moscow region, will eat raw , unsalted penis for a dinner .

[ColossalContrarian]

Did you see 50-60-70 yo engineers? Sukhoi - Average employee age - 40 yo

those were engineers? hahahahahaha grow up, son.

The external debt of the U.S. for September-October rose by more than 920 billion - up to 10.6 trillion. In the real economy, the main trouble lies ahead

There are numerous threads on the US national debt. This thread is about how pathetic Russian subs are. THEY ARE INFERIOR TO U.S. SUBS Now go cry to your mother Russia

[evgeny]

This thread is about how pathetic Russian subs are. THEY ARE INFERIOR TO U.S. SUBS Now go cry to your mother Russia

Sheet Happens

February 1, 2005—The U.S. Navy released this photograph last Thursday of the nuclear submarine San Francisco, which crashed headlong into an uncharted undersea mountain ( Strange technology? ) near Guam on January 8. Standing more than three stories high and with classified technology ( Strange technology? ) veiled by a tarp, the fast-attack submarine is shown awaiting repairs in a Guam dry dock.

The impact shredded the submarine's nose, killed one sailor, and injured 60 more. The sailors were largely protected by the vessel's reinforced inner hull, which did not rupture. After the wreck, the crew quickly ascended and sailed along the ocean's surface back to their base in Guam.
(Just Facts)This idiots thinks metro in Washington dc area is high technology
I'm sorry Americans brothers, but you just a BRAINWASHED IDIOTS

The Americans made the first real smart bomb, but have been unable to cast her out of the plane

[dissident]

That's funny considering the US has high resolution bathymetry for the whole planet.

[Tanada]

That's funny considering the US has high resolution bathymetry for the whole planet.

They did not release the depth data for the mountain, I think it is likely it was uncharted because it was at a significant depth. The USN has a policy of not stating what depths submarines work because it is secret how deep they can safely dive. I have seen anything from "in excess of 500 feet" to "in excess of 1000 feet" given as depth ratings so unless you are an insider you don't really know how deep they routinely travle.

If the San Fran was running along at say 1200 feet or so she could have encountered an unknown peak near Guam. Garunteed the USN probably sent out survey ships to all the areas where that might happen in the future based on depth readings and took some more deep survey data.

[Taghayee]

evengy, wouldnt you say that the worst victims of Russia's military industry have been ordinary Russians? The same industry has made possible mass coercion that spanned generations and widespread pollution throughout Russia. If anything, its the worst thing about Russia.

Btw- do you know about the origins of Russia's arms industry?