efarmer wrote:"Taste the sizzling fury of fajita skillet death you marauding zombie goon!"
RedStateGreen wrote: if you seriously don't believe there is hostility present in the US.
Ludi wrote:Ok, I guess I thought the reason they would be hostile is because they have their own discrete culture and reject those who are different and from"outside", but, as I live in an area made up of many immigrants, as many parts of the US are, it's difficult for me to see how or why these areas would become hostile to each other.
But that's just me, perhaps! I don't see much hostility around me in daily life.
Nefarious wrote:You also still live in a time of plenty.
Ludi wrote:That's true! It's quite possible most people will turn into assholes when times are tough.Nefarious wrote:You also still live in a time of plenty.
vaseline2008 wrote:Ah yes...the 1992 Los Angeles Riots are a pretty good example.
JohnDenver wrote:seahorse wrote:So, when the military think tank says what is happening in Zimbabwe could happen here, for a myriad of reasons, don't be so dismissive. It would behoove people to pay attention.
Why? If the US is going to turn into Zimbabwe, then it's a done deal, and you might as well forget about it. At that point, who cares? It's game over and there's no reason to care about anything anymore, at least if you're in America. Unless of course you're proposing some kind of solution. But you're not. You never talk about solutions. All you talk about is problems and defeat and despair, the more lurid the better. It's almost like you're trying to one-up yourself, or craving attention. You're getting to the point now where it's like nuclear war level doom. You've already hit "10" on the worst case scenario scale. Personally I don't give a crap about contingencies that bad. If the nuke is gonna drop, I might as well put on my sunglasses and sit outside in a lawnchair.
I'm also detecting a really strong racial undercurrent in your concerns. You're using all the appropriate code words, but it still comes through real strong.
Why? If the US is going to turn into Zimbabwe, then it's a done deal, and you might as well forget about it. At that point, who cares? It's game over and there's no reason to care about anything anymore, at least if you're in America.
Unless of course you're proposing some kind of solution. But you're not. You never talk about solutions.
All you talk about is problems and defeat and despair, the more lurid the better.
You're getting to the point now where it's like nuclear war level doom.
Personally I don't give a crap about contingencies that bad.
I'm also detecting a really strong racial undercurrent in your concerns. You're using all the appropriate code words, but it still comes through real strong.
Ludi wrote:I don't see much hostility around me in daily life.
NoahsDove wrote:In many ways, America already resembles a third world country. The Great Obama City of Chicago alone has a homicide rate of 500 or more per year, regularly outdistancing even NY City with far greater population. Considering the fact that all the major cities of US has inner city Black and Hispanic ghettos that would make a typical third world blush, It's a problem that this country is unlikely or unable to fix. What was the point of "sanctuary" status for Illegals? How stupid can a country get?
This inherent corruption is endemic, not much different than what goes on in Mexico. Mexico is not the only failed state.
Ayoob wrote:But I don't live in or near the ghetto anymore. The closest ghetto to me is over 100 miles away as the crow flies. I'm out.
eastbay wrote:I thought you were in LA??Ayoob wrote:But I don't live in or near the ghetto anymore. The closest ghetto to me is over 100 miles away as the crow flies. I'm out.
Ayoob wrote:Nope. No mas, cabron. I finished school and moved. Good money, job security many people would drool over right now, a nice safe neighborhood filled with the good people of America.eastbay wrote:I thought you were in LA??Ayoob wrote:But I don't live in or near the ghetto anymore. The closest ghetto to me is over 100 miles away as the crow flies. I'm out.
When the nature of peak oil finally wormed its way into my gut I threw my life in the trash and changed direction completely. Goodbye LA, hello... somewhere else!
That said, let's get this thread back on track. How does America become Zimbabwe? How did Zimbabwe become Zimbabwe?
mos6507 wrote:Ludi wrote:I don't see much hostility around me in daily life.
Although there is plenty here on peakoil.com
Ludi wrote:Yes, that's true, but I have to admit I rarely get into political and philosophical discussions with people at the grocery store or the feed store.
seahorse2 wrote:Ayoob, My very basic understanding of the Zimbabwe hyperinflation was they did what Germany did pre-WWII, they monetized their debt, basically, printed lots of money to pay off IMF loans. There were other political blunders, but hyperinflation is the direct result of a gov't monetizing the debt. The risk for the US is it has admittedly begun some monetization of the debt and Bernanke has stated, within the last few weeks, this is an option the US will use. The question is, can it be done without leading to hyperinflation? I've never read a convincing argument that one can monetize and not hyperinflate.
mos6507 wrote:Perhaps people should talk about such things more openly IRL rather than reserving it for the internet.
Ludi wrote:So we'll be more hostile?mos6507 wrote:Perhaps people should talk about such things more openly IRL rather than reserving it for the internet.
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