[kiwichick]

here we go , here we go, here we go

here we go , here we go, here we goooo

here we go ,here we go , here we go

here we go , here we go , here we gooooooo

[Tanada]

here we go , here we go, here we go

here we go , here we go, here we goooo

here we go ,here we go , here we go

here we go , here we go , here we gooooooo

I must admit KC that wasn't the reaction I was expecting lol.

How are the drought conditions in your neck of the woods? Is it better than last month? We are deep in our rainy spring season here and I would send you some if I could.

[kiwichick]

hi tanada

sorry about that , it had been a bad day

however i tend to think the inertia that the vested interests are exerting will mean the efforts will be too little and too late

it's still very dry here only 11mms this year so far ; which is about 10 % of the long term average

the dairy farmers have had their milk payout cut by at least 30% so they are generally in survivor mode ie not spending

the locals still think this a drought and that we must due for a wet winter

just your classic denial of course; perfectly understandable

after all before Copurnicus the catholic church dogma was that earth was the center of the universe and the sun revolved around us !!

[coyote]

Here is a link to the sequence:

Wilkins breakup

The small version:

[Crazy_Dad]

Here is a link to the sequence:

Wilkins breakup

The small version:

Meanwhile back at the ranch. nothing gets done. I was talking to a business advocate today about how we need the planet to function if we want to continue to feed from it's bounty. He couldn't assimilate the data past his desire for a lcd tv. how can this be overcome?

[GregWatson]

It's toast.

Greg

[GregWatson]

Double Toast.

[GregWatson]

Triple Toast.

Greg

[Lore]

Meanwhile back at the ranch. nothing gets done. I was talking to a business advocate today about how we need the planet to function if we want to continue to feed from it's bounty. He couldn't assimilate the data past his desire for a lcd tv. how can this be overcome?

Old habits die with the dead.

[GregWatson]

Gone.

Greg

[GregWatson]

Not only is the Wilkins Ice Bridge totally gone but as predicted the whole Wilkins Ice Shelf is breaking up.

Anybody need a few Ice Cubes?

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/wil ... 0m_img.jpg

Greg

[coyote]

Here's a small pic of the breakup:

[rockdoc123]

Interesting new discussion on this topic in Nature:

Pollard, D. and DeConto, R.M. 2009. Modelling West Antarctic ice sheet growth and collapse through the past five million years. Nature 458: 329-332.

Huybrechts, P. 2009. West-side story of Antarctic ice. Nature 458: 295-296


Huybrechts comment based on the Pollard and De Conto research was that to get enough warming in the nearby ocean to create "significant" retreat of the ice shelf would take at least a century and that total collapse of the West Antarctic ice shelf would take somewhere between a thousand and several thousand years.

[rangerone314]

Why am I imagining Slim Pickens whooping it up waving a cowboy hat as he rides a collapsing ice shelf into the ocean?

[GregWatson]

Scientists expecting massive iceberg from glacier crack
link 20 to 25 km wide and 75 km long. That is a big BIG chunk of ice.

[vision-master]

[pup55]

Is there a "Ricardo" glacier?

[dohboi]

Nice point, but of course it raises water levels immediately through displacement.

[rockdoc123]

Is there a "Ricardo" glacier?

Too many young folks here to get general pick up on that one pup!

[gnm]

Is there a "Ricardo" glacier?

Too many young folks here to get general pick up on that one pup!

If you want them to understand, then you got some 'splainin to do Lucy.
-G