[timmac]

It seems to me at this moment in time we are seeing economy collapses all around the world and more to come, billions and trillions have been injected into the markets, governments, states, cities, etc, etc all to kick the can down the road for 1 or 2 years, I don't think we need to wait for SHTF anymore folks I think its hear and just growing worse by the month.
[ and I have been a moderate doomer, but thats changing by the month ]

Time to check the doom supplies...