[3aidlillahi]

I wasn't sure where to put this thread because it's about food. According to the descriptions, the environment thread nor the current energy news are appropriate. May I suggest to Mods that we have a Food Thread?

Anyway, here's a pretty good "article" with interesting graphs on the world food situation. They posted these graphs because UK is going to slow the growth of biofuel production due to food and poverty concern issues as well as the environment.

Here's some of the best:


The food price spikes of recent are nothing compared to past history. We'll have plenty of a way to go, therefore, to get to a reduction in demand.

Also interesting with their predictions. Absolutely laughable.


Most of the ethanol production is from corn which has had some of the least price increases.


That's a tremendous amount of more meat consumed => more than 30 billion more kilos of meat. I don't even want to calculate the extra water consumed.


Even with higher prices, the US is doing better because of its exports. We're not even experiencing the trouble of other nations. It's going to get bad when production yields go lower.

[Specop_007]

I can tell you right off the water claims for 1 kg of wheat are utter nonsense in terms of discussing water usage. Theres a reason its called "dryland" farming, and I've never once that I can remember seen a pivot irrigating a wheat field.

As for the prices, "adjusted for inflation" is the biggest coverup one can use. Look around at the economy and tell me "adjusted for inflation" prices arent one of the big drivers.

As for the exports that doesnt really factor in the "we the people".
The reason farming hasnt been worth a damn for so long was due to artificialyl low crop prices. The reason being if farmers were paid a decent amount for their work (If grain prices were "normal") every Soccer Mom in the country would be pissing and moaning about food prices.

We are today in an interesting time of adjustment where crop prices today are drasticalyl higher then planting prices last year so farmers stand to make a good deal of money. Very soon though costs will catch up and all this extra income from farming will disappear.

[sjn]

The food price spikes of recent are nothing compared to past history. We'll have plenty of a way to go, therefore, to get to a reduction in demand.

This misses the fact that in the past for fewer people actually bought their daily food on the global open market. Most poorer people lived subsistance lifestyles - now there are cities full of billions of extra people who didn't even exist in the '70s. It's a different world.

[burtonridr]

Even with higher prices, the US is doing better because of its exports. We're not even experiencing the trouble of other nations. It's going to get bad when production yields go lower.

I think this image shows how the US will be better in PO than Europe....

We have a lot more soil to plant crops on than Europe does, and by this image it looks like we may outlast the population

[ralfy]

https://twitter.com/Sabina_91521/status ... 4667408384

Blinken:

The @UN Security Council is charged with maintaining international peace and security, and we cannot do that without strengthening food security. Each of us has a responsibility to act so no one goes hungry.

Sabina:

Didn't your country vote "no" to "food as human right?"

[ralfy]

https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/16 ... 3977962497

How the IMF and World Bank use food as a weapon to control other nations and their governments.

[theluckycountry]

Poverty in Britain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK68yyrKUOA

It's called the Heat or Eat dilemma and it leads to tens of thousands of 'excess deaths' every Winter. Heating a home, it's Energy, Gas, Electricity, it's all the same. Food is Gas and Oil and Electricity too. The amount of fossil fuels used in growth of raw product is staggering. And then there is harvesting; shipping, processing and packaging, to transport, to refrigeration, to marketing, to wages to store lighting, to taxes. Is it any wonder food is going up up up as Energy prices go up.

It was never an issue at $20/b oil, there was lots of profit and parasites flooded in to take their share. Now they still all need their share of course or you won't have a packet of corn flakes in the pantry, tins of meat and tins of vegetables. The only way out is to bypass the whole fossil food chain but this is difficult in a nation like the UK where there is not enough farmland and Winter temperatures cripple food growth.

Most people think Britain only imports about 50% of its food. But the reality is that 80% of food is imported, including basics such as carrots and tea.

https://www.businessinsider.com/no-deal ... 20capacity.

Did anyone read that Deagel page a few years back?
https://nobulart.com/deagel-2025-forecast-resurrected/

A lot of people have grabbed onto it and made the predictions part of their agenda's but the fact remains that the Deagel corporation ( a minor branch of US military intelligence which collects data for high-level decision-making and briefing documents for agencies like the National Security Agency, the United Nations, and the World Bank.) Put out an alarming forcast that seemed improbable at the time. Well at least improbable to anyone but a gloomy minded peakoiler.

Head of the list of collapsed nations was the UK, the USA, and Germany. Head of the pack of those doing ok was Russia? Russia with all it's oil and food and other natural resources. The only thing that is keeping the UK and the US afloat at the moment is the debt that these nations are creating and spending overseas to bring in the raw materials, the Energy/Food they need to survive.

Russia is already curtailing Energy supplies to Europe and many nations are stopping exports of certain staples they deem necessary. Oil rich nations are curtailing sales as well, it begs the question, how will western nations buy these if their currencies collapse? The Western Debt pyramid that has been building for 50 years underpins these currencies. A ponzi scheme producer nations in the BRICS are well aware will collapse one day soon.


From the Deagel report cited above

...The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy.

Food for thought...

Deagel is known, for example, to have contributed to a Stratfor report on North Korea. With this kind of pedigree, Deagel should be seen as a legitimate player in the intelligence community and not merely a disinformation asset.

If so, then it must be assumed that its population predictions for 2025, as well as its industrial output predictions on a nation-by-nation basis, are based on strategic assumptions which are shared and well understood by other players in the intelligence community.

https://metallicman.com/the-shocking-20 ... he-future/