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Oil per capita

Unread postby Buggy » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 19:48:59

Forgive me ye old-timers if this is new. In my studies I came across something new. Well, new to me anyway. I think, aside from the initial wake up call I got to peak oil a few months ago, this would be the second most difficult news to digest.

Oil production per capita peaked in 1979.

Which means that every gallon of gas I use is a gallon somebody somewhere else doesn't get to use. And of course the paradox would be that if I use it and he can't, I inevitabely make his life better and my life worse. Now my head hurts.
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Twilight » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 19:56:59

Buggy wrote:Oil production per capita peaked in 1979.

Yes, it did.

Buggy wrote:Which means that every gallon of gas I use is a gallon somebody somewhere else doesn't get to use. And of course the paradox would be that if I use it and he can't, I inevitabely make his life better and my life worse. Now my head hurts.

Not paradoxical, it is the obvious converse. And it makes Jack quiver with pleasure. :lol:
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Buggy » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 20:02:55

Twilight wrote:
Buggy wrote:Oil production per capita peaked in 1979.

Yes, it did.

Buggy wrote:Which means that every gallon of gas I use is a gallon somebody somewhere else doesn't get to use. And of course the paradox would be that if I use it and he can't, I inevitabely make his life better and my life worse. Now my head hurts.

Not paradoxical, it is the obvious converse. And it makes Jack quiver with pleasure. :lol:


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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 20:12:50

It's a good thing we're a lot smarter about how we use oil than we were in 1978 or even 1998.

GDP/barrel of oil has been increasing dramatically over the past 30 years, even after you factor out the manipulations.
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Twilight » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 20:16:07

That is true as well.

Jack is the self-confessed resident sociopath. It's OK, he's harmless really.
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Buggy » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 20:18:22

Twilight wrote:That is true as well.

Jack is the self-confessed resident sociopath. It's OK, he's harmless really.


Oh good. I can come out of my closet.
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 11 Aug 2008, 23:33:46

Tyler_JC wrote:GDP/barrel of oil has been increasing dramatically over the past 30 years, even after you factor out the manipulations.


(Assuming you're talking about US GDP)

Is there really improved efficiency or is it just the result of moving energy intensive industries to Mexico or China where they don't show up in the US consumption figures, but the US is still the ultimate consumer?

I ask this every time I see the claim about "GDP/barrel of oil" but never get a good answer.
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Re: Oil per capita

Unread postby Homesteader » Mon 11 Aug 2008, 23:41:54

Keith_McClary wrote:
Is there really improved efficiency or is it just the result of moving energy intensive industries to Mexico or China where they don't show up in the US consumption figures, but the US is still the ultimate consumer?

I ask this every time I see the claim about "GDP/barrel of oil" but never get a good answer.


Great question, I'm going to remember that one.
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