essex wrote:Intermittent and expensive wind is not the magic bullet some hope. The community where I live is certainly stressing over a proposed wind farm. www.palmerston-north.info
aahala2 wrote:Oh my God! You can actually see the towers from the street. Sure glad that other power plants and utility poles are invisible.essex wrote:Intermittent and expensive wind is not the magic bullet some hope. The community where I live is certainly stressing over a proposed wind farm. www.palmerston-north.info
aahala2 wrote:Oh my God! You can actually see the towers from the street. Sure glad that other power plants and utility poles are invisible.essex wrote:Intermittent and expensive wind is not the magic bullet some hope. The community where I live is certainly stressing over a proposed wind farm. www.palmerston-north.info
Wind power developer, here. I wouldn't want one in my backyard.mos6507 wrote:You know, windmills are tourist attractions in Holland. But in people's backyards they are eyesores?
Then I'd agree. Just remember, the oil from the Middle East doesn't power our ACs and microwave ovens; it powers our 1-block drives to Blockbuster.joelcolorado wrote:I would vote to have one in every persons backyard if necessary to keep us out of the middle east and that mess. One soldiers life is not worth keeping my pretty view. I chose to have electricity for everythjng so have to do my part too.
Most "overseas" natural gas come from Canada and Mexico, with whom I hope we're not at war yet. The ~20 million barrels we import daily have energy equivalent to 750 nuclear power plants, or 7 times the US fleet or about half the world's fleet. You need to install over one million (1,000,000) utility-scale wind mills across the country to offset the oil imports. But since they have a 30% net capacity factor, you actually have to install shy of four million (4,000,000) eyesore wind mills. Demand growth not computed, of course. Good luck with that, and actually, it's good for me because you'll guarantee I'll never have to worry about job security again.joelcolorado wrote:We purchase natural gas from overseas too and that can be used in cars. THe electricity can be used in cars. Or to make hydrogen from water. Its not THE answer but part of THE answer. You need 8 slices of pie to make a whole pie.
Joel, please! Supply the country with electricity produced in Kansas is like watering Central Park from Kansas with a garden hose. It doesn't work like that.joelcolorado wrote:My son in laws doctoral thesis is on alternate energy. It states that Kansas alone can provide 27% of the entire USA demand for electricity from wind. I would believe it as it never quits blowing here. We laugh our asses off when the hurricane pics are on the weather channel and there as SUSTAINED winds of 50 mph. THAT IS not too far off our daily average.
Not many days the flags dont stand straight out where I live. But the county chased the wind company out of town as they were ugly. Go figure. And an oil well or grain elevator or power poles are NOT
Just like replacing oil's use in transportation isn't the same as replacing it's energy equivalent. It doesn't work like that.VMarcHart wrote:Joel, please! Supply the country with electricity produced in Kansas is like watering Central Park from Kansas with a garden hose. It doesn't work like that.
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
Please keep me updated with the progress of your project.yesplease wrote:...we wouldn't need 4,000,000 windmills, we would need ~165,000 windmills, for the personal transportation piece of the pie. A windmill every 6,000 acres doesn't sound too bad.
My project? More like the economy. Unless of course you're implying that the economy is my project, and in that case I'm flattered.VMarcHart wrote:Please keep me updated with the progress of your project.yesplease wrote:...we wouldn't need 4,000,000 windmills, we would need ~165,000 windmills, for the personal transportation piece of the pie. A windmill every 6,000 acres doesn't sound too bad.
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
The project of installing 165,000 windmills for all the 300 million EVs you're going to put on the market.yesplease wrote:My project?VMarcHart wrote:Please keep me updated with the progress of your project.yesplease wrote:...we wouldn't need 4,000,000 windmills, we would need ~165,000 windmills, for the personal transportation piece of the pie. A windmill every 6,000 acres doesn't sound too bad.
Is that just like your project to build 4,000,000 windmills for 300 million SUV sized EVs you're going to put on the market except smaller?VMarcHart wrote:The project of installing 165,000 windmills for all the 300 million EVs you're going to put on the market.yesplease wrote:My project?VMarcHart wrote:Please keep me updated with the progress of your project.yesplease wrote:...we wouldn't need 4,000,000 windmills, we would need ~165,000 windmills, for the personal transportation piece of the pie. A windmill every 6,000 acres doesn't sound too bad.
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
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