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Commissioners are optimistic red granite will be a useful alternative.
"You can't even get the oil, but when you can get it, it's $50,000 a mile. I can do this for about $10,000, and it's the next best thing," Grayson County Commissioner Jackie Crisp said
patience wrote:Infrastructure is built of steel and cast iron, concrete (natural gas fired mfrg.), and petrochemicals to make paint, adhesives, etc.. All of it is transported to point of use by diesel fuel. This has resulted in much higher point-of-use costs for asphalt, raising from $1,200 to $1,600/tandem truckload last year up to $2,500/ load this year.
emersonbiggins wrote:Anecdotally, at least one Texas county is substituting crushed red granite for asphalt in its road maintenance program.
emersonbiggins wrote:Interesting, vt. Would the cost of the old asphalt be prohibitive, or does it only become that way when fresh oil is added into the mix?
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yesplease wrote:High costs don't translate into preventing infrastructure upkeep/expansion in any meaningful way AFAIK. They may delay it, and discourage expansion, especially frivolous uses, but that certainly isn't the same as preventing it. .
O&M is very labor intensive, which is sensitive to oil prices.yesplease wrote:I'm curious about this and was wondering if anyone had validation of the claims that oil's higher prices will prevent infrastructure upkeep/construction compared to what was built with "cheap" oil?
It's not like we don't have the half a trillion needed to bring infrastructure up to a "good condition". If we wanna throw away a few trillion in a ME desert, then complain about poor infrastructure, we reap what we sow.vtsnowedin wrote: Unfortunatly the US government has let our infrastructure decline and the decline started well before the supply of oil became tight. Not sense 1975 has work been done in a timely manner so now we have a backlog that is gargantuan. Instead they have built Big Digs and bike paths and blasted new wetlands out of solid ledge.
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What specifically did you have in mind?VMarcHart wrote:O&M is very labor intensive, which is sensitive to oil prices.
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In my industry, 99% of O&M is done from, via, through, by means of, with the help of, etc, mechanized, oil-driven machines. We have already seen O&M costs going up on the account of gasoline and diesel prices.yesplease wrote:What specifically did you have in mind?VMarcHart wrote:O&M is very labor intensive, which is sensitive to oil prices.
But how much have that gone up in relation to other costs, which are naturally compared to alternatives? I mean, an increase in service costs isn't the same as a prevention of service.VMarcHart wrote:In my industry, 99% of O&M is done from, via, through, by means of, with the help of, etc, mechanized, oil-driven machines. We have already seen O&M costs going up on the account of gasoline and diesel prices.yesplease wrote:What specifically did you have in mind?VMarcHart wrote:O&M is very labor intensive, which is sensitive to oil prices.
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I can't quantify yet, but things such as the cost of renting a crane went up a lot, etc. All service and maintenance work have been performed per schedule, but theses new costs were not computed in the cost of power sales, which is starting to affect the bottom-line.yesplease wrote:...how much have that gone up in relation to other costs...? I mean, an increase in service costs isn't the same as a prevention of service.
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Some do. It's called Variable O&M pass-through. However, if you're a buyer, you want for the seller to bear some of the risks too, so you don't agree on a 100% pass-through. Ultimately, it is always passed-through to the final/retail customer.yesplease wrote:Those are gonna have to creep up too. I'm surprised more businesses don't use a dynamic system for cost projections...
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